Woods Believes in the CWB... Macklin

[TOM4CWB]

Dear John,

Went to a CWB 'Farm Forum' in Macklin yesterday.

A 15 minute video was all the stomach they had to actually discuss the 2009-10 Financials.

Feed barley is a total HOAX.

Money lost on Zero tonnes sold through the 2 pools...

I think the CWB believes if you do not talk about it... and kick out anyone who wants a rational explanation... this issue will vanish faster than a Alberta pickup truck headed home after a 'warm' CWB Saskatchewan 'welcome' to stop asking questions and leave.

CWB integrity is on par with 'Charlie Sheen'... ... and the CWB staff are about as rational.

Woods is proud he voted against the 40t minimum on CWB election qualifications... claiming the 'slipery slope' defense.

Woods is proud of all the transportation pooling the CWB does...

Ships especially.

Woods maintains the railways blow way over the cap away by giving the $8/t discounts to those loading 50 and 100 car multi-spot unit trains, then using these discounts to 'top down' their costs to meet the cap after raising rail rates all year.

I need help here John DePape... why are you wrong and Woods is right?

I can not understand why the CWB are stealing our money and giving to Robin Hood/Horizon ($2.3M) to brand their specific Robin Hood flour!

And then the CWB can't understand why Robin Hood won't sell our 'designated area' flour in the US markets!!!

Picking certain private brand 'winners' by giving away 'slave trade' financing of their specific ads and their specific promotions... CWB believes they can increase flour consumption by putting the 'CWB badge' on a bag of 'Canadian slavery grown flour'?

ANother 'Chalie Sheen' moment.

I asked how the CWB branding campaign VP how he can rationalize away 'the slavery theft of ''designated area' farm families wheat' by having a branding campaign... they had a 'Charlie Sheen' moment would not answer that question for some reason!

I could go on... and on... and...


I feel another special promotion of 'designated area' flour...comming on here...


What do you think John?

[jdepape]

Tom:

Don’t have a lot of time right now but will make a couple of comments:

I sent around a series of questions for farmers to ask at these meetings. The feedback I’ve gotten is that the CWB seems to think I’m being misleading through “incomplete analysis”. What the CWB doesn’t understand is the questions are simply sincere requests for clarity – with most of the questions I’m not trying to suggest anything underhanded.

For example, Tom, you bring up the loss in the feed barley pools when there was no feed barley traded. Clearly, when you look at the Annual Report and see this it looks strange – how can you lose money when you didn’t handle any barley?

I’m told the answer is that the loss is due to an estimate used in the previous year and is now a known leading to a small adjustment that needs to be accounted for. I don’t know more than that but this is a good answer. Not looking for any smoking gun here – just want to understand the report.

It is regrettable that the CWB staff (and director) that was at that meeting did not encourage an open discussion. I think it behooves them to acknowledge that the annual report is lacking in clarity and details that farmers would like to see and they need to be sincere in their approach to ANY questions or concerns. Getting defensive is not an option.

You say “Woods is proud he voted against the 40t minimum on CWB election qualifications... claiming the 'slippery slope' defense.” What slope would that be, I wonder? Is he afraid that next time, people will be requesting the limit be 400 tonnes?

Woods can argue all he likes about the revenue cap but he has it wrong – just ask a railway, a grain company, the CWB or the Federal Grain Monitor. First, the railways don’t charge the single car rate to farmers – the elevator companies do. And with the CWB’s blessing. Rather than blame the railways, Woods should ask someone within the CWB why that is. For Woods to say that the railways use “slick accounting” in how they charge the single car rate to farmers is simply misdirected.

Perhaps Woods sees the railways as charging the single car rate because, as a producer car shipper, that is what happens to him. And he sees the grain companies getting freight rates as much as $8.00 lower and then passing out trucking premiums to match, making the loading of producer cars less attractive.

On average, grain companies give up just about all the benefit of lower multi-car freight rates as trucking premiums – so, in aggregate, farmers get the lion’s share of the benefit of the lower rates. Unless you’re loading producer cars.

Could this be the real root of the problem for Woods? If so, he should make that clear.

[TOM4CWB]

Dear John,

Thanks for your time and response.

More troubling than the pool loss is the EPO loss on the feed barley pool for 2009-10.

So where does the CWB get the money to cover these losses... out of the Contingency fund... obviously.

As well the 'cost of sales' on each pool was very troublesome to me.

This comes straight off the bottom line... and is VERY poorly or not explained at all.

Sooo the CWB can claim it got say (for example) $600/t... the cost of sales are $300/t... but the CWB then churns this into comparisons with farm gate revenues for US growers?

I know for certain when our farm was flat out prevented from selling select high protein winter wheat... because there was 'no market'... there is truly something very wrong.

Same goes for the CWB telling us we must sell #1 Hard White wheat as #3 because there is no market.

Will I get a rational answer about why the CWB is allowed to misgrade and rip our family farm off?

OR why we do not use falling numbers on all this feed wheat going south to the US... instead of CGC feed wheat grades that mean nothing as far as suitability for milling wheat?

Talk about the CWB 'Fox' being in the growers chicken coup... pooling does nothing rational to justify the great grain robberies... year after year... going on out on the family grain farm in the 'designated area'!!!

Woods want my neighbour who grows and ships NO CWB grain... cause a ballot in the garbage means the CWB is doing just fine.

This whole election system is a corrupt excuse to steal our wheat and barley... and Goodale knew it when he set it up.

The Aussies didn't have a vote to remove its single desk... because they knew it was immoral and corrupt.

President Ian White knows it. Chairman Allen Oberg knows it. The CWB does not respect private property rights... the base of the Common Law. Pooling without choice... is THEFT... no matter how many votes the CWB has take away my families grain!

Now... how does the CWB BRAND this?

Stealing Wheat and Barley and all the other grains...... it a hey... hey... ho... ho... farmers lock your doors...

[Last saskatchewan Pirate]

Captain Tractor and the Arrogant Worms!

Canadian Culture at its best!

[stubblejumper]

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[gregpet]

Stubble, excellent, well thought out response. I can understand now more clearly the CWB postion. Thank you.

[FarmRanger]

Indeed Gregpet, I've seldom heard the merits of
the single desk position summed up in so few
words.