Bill C-619

[bucket]

Basically if the CWB is not a major platform issue on the conservative's election campaign, they will not get my vote.

It will indicate that western canada does not matter to them.

[fjlip]

Like Tom says Cons are only hope with a majority, I'd give one more chance.

The other 3 stooges GUARANTEED to screw you more. How short are your memories?

Communicate your opinions to Sk MP's and the cabinet on various topics.

That is our responsibility in a democracy, to try to sway legislation with reasonable arguments.

Just complaining or giving up is rather childish. Ponder the alternative.

If this were Libya,you would need a civil war. Count your blessings.

[bucket]

You might be right, but, the way the conservatives have handled the cwb file is way more childish than me not voting for them because they haven't fullfilled an election promise from 4 years ago.

Sure I complain about the conservatives, mostly because I have voted for them and expected them to do as they said they would. That hasn't happened on the gun issue or the cwb.

[hlg]

It`s still to much politics and not enough government. Why is every vote not a free vote? Most votes seem to go against what our area needs.

[Raven]

The Conservatives actually did do something - they determined from the courts that the Government Cabinet regulations (and not farmers) are in control of the CWB. Then they did nothing. Since they could have ended this Government (CWB) control over captive supplies of farmer grain by a regulation simply ordering the CWB to grant export licences to producers, why would anyone think that, with a majority, they would end the monopoly by changing the Act?

My curiousity is why don't CWB complainers not want to end the monopoly by being granted licences?

[TOM4CWB]

Raven,

While your idea about the CWB Minister may have some truth to it... even on the ship purchase the legal consensus in Ottawa circles meant Minister Ritz and Secretary Anderson's hands are tied.

Clearly these officers of Parliamentary status are not allowed to recommend decisions that the parliamentary legal folks will not agree to.

I will suggest forcefully... that the issuance of export licneses inside the 'designated area' has been clearly designated to be at the 'whim' of the CWB legal people and CWB management.

If you must force this issue... as for the parliamentary legal advice that would back up your MP... to enforce your solution. At the very least you will win a 3-5 year trip to the Supreme Court of Canada... with farmers paying the CWB side and taxpayers the Gov. of Canada.

We need a legislative change... that can NOT easily change the CWB back in seconds... when the LibBlocND coalition takes power.

[bucket]

So TOM, will the conservatives make the cwb a major platform issue or will they go buy quebec votes with western canadian support?

Will they just take our votes for granted?

[Raven]

TOM4CWB

I agree that the Conservatives have clearly given up their statutory authority over licences to the 'whim' of the CWB bureaucrats.

Thats factual. But its only an opinion that the Liberals in power would order the CWB to start discriminating again against Prairie farmers. In my opinion, they would not.

Even if they did, are we not better to have temporary freedom? And for farmers to understand how the monopoly is forced upon us?

[TOM4CWB]

Bucket,

There is no question what the Conservative Party of Canada position is on the CWB. Marketing Choice is clearly the policy. For anyone to read.

The AGM in Ottawa in June 2011 could change anything... however there was certainly NO indication that less priority will be dedicated to the CWB solving of marketing problems.

In our November Alberta Policy Congress: if anything, the CWB problem received as much or more time and discussion than just about any other single issue.

To say the Conservative team forgot about the CWB problem... would be from the outside looking in... and refuse to recognise the large body of goodwill that strongly desires to fix the CWB debacle.

[bucket]

TOM

I am from the outside looking in and the perception is the conservatives are doing nothing.

I really don't care what goes on behind closed doors because that makes the conservatives look like the cwb when they bought the ships.

It is quite easy, in the next election, will the conservatives make the cwb voluntary or at least eliminate it?

I don't think the liberals or the ndp have the balls to fight an election on this issue which then puts the power to the conservatives. They have actually had that for quite a while now, they just refuse to use it. And the other way to fight this issue would be to implement the cwb across canada and that would never be allowed to happen. Its political suicide.

So in reality the conservatives have the ball in their court.