My friend calls this angriville, here is a funny video to get everyone to chill.

[gregpet]

Why let facts get in the way hey Mus?

[TOM4CWB]

Gregpet:

"Gregpet this plane purchase had nothing to do with the liberals"

Is that a twelve second sound bite?

[riders2010]

10 years ago for a certain price something may have been good or it may have been bad, the question is, today right now given our economic situation, other plane technologies, etc. etc. etc.

WHAT WILL THESE F'N PLANES COST! WHY IS THE COST BEING HIDDEN? FOR F" SAKES DON'T TRY TO BE BULLSHITTER POLITICIANS FOR A SECOND OR TWO AND DEAL WITH REALITY RIGHT NOW, NOT 10 YEARS AGO, NOT CHRETIEN NOT MULRONEY, NOT ELVIS, DON'T BLAME ANYONE CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL, BUT DEAL WITH THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW TODAY!!!!!!

WHY THE HELL CAN'T SOMEONE TELL US THE CANADIAN PEOPLE WHAT THE F THE PRICE IS, SURELY THERE MUST BE A PIECE OF PAPER THAT THE NERDS HAVE CALCULATED AND SHUFFLED AROUND? CAN'T THE GOVERNMENT GIVE THE OKEY FOR A REPORTER CALL UP THE COMPANY AND SAY HEY WHAT IS THE PRICE?

[gregpet]

I was just responding to mustards incorrect statement.

[TOM4CWB]

Riders2010,

Did you actually read the new "F35 no Con Job"... and why we need the advanced airframe technology for the next half century to protect Canada and NATO?

Do we really want to be flying jets... in 10-20 years... that those in North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Northern African/Middle East, and Pacific Rim nations can shoot us in NATO down any day... any time they like?

Of course 'new' techy thingys cost... big time... that is why we are involved with the space station... NATO... and UN... doing our very small part... I might add...

If you think the Ruskies, India, and Chinese... with Billions of people... advanced tech... and need for our resources in Canada... won't demand them... if we have NO WAY to protect ourselves...

Perhaps your children want to become part of China... or India... or Russian of Saskabush?

[TOM4CWB]

But then... Where is IGGY's roots... why... he might like the idea of all us western Canadians being forced to learn Russian!

[riders2010]

Tom, why go off on tangents all the time? Not just you both sides.

I'm saying hold up a document that says for x amount of planes delivered x point in time this is the price. To maintain these planes this is the cost. The parts are available at x for this price.

There are American and others that say these planes are a money pit. Why not provide the facts about their capeabilities, shortfalls etc.

But asside from all that the real point here is why try to be so deceptive about all of the information.
Harpster the "Beetle pianomaniac" is looking more and more like he is giving all of us the finger saying only "I' "ME" knows what is best. Take this as something you right wingers need to grasp before you will not even be minortity because this is making you guys look more and more like the "Democratic Dictorship" and people aren't going to elect that.

[checking]

Riders.

Since this is more like a NATO plane, what are they saying about the x cost/jet questions you ask?

[Kathy]

Here is a link to a Japanese satellite picture for weather patterns; you can see that the jet-stream is coming right past the Japanese east coast and straight over to North America. Might be helpful for predicting our weather, as you can see how the systems are building off the coast.

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/

A note on the Canadian nuclear link, above, a table on radiation reading across Canada - spoke with a representative who stated this "chart" is a Health Canada item, and definitely it is ONLY measuring specific isotopes (although not sure which ones). He is checking into it for me. Best way to confuse people is to use "charts for specific this or that isotopes"... makes the whole thing very difficult to understand.

Note: Radiation reading in ocean near Fukushima 4500 times above normal? for Iodine 131. It is bogus to measure Iodine 131 as its half-life is so short, only 8 days. As time goes on, these levels won't reflect the true radiation contamination of the ocean with those isotopes with longer half-lifes, which are accumulating daily. BAD BAD BAD BAD....

[per]

Thanks for shortcutting some of the research into learning more about this Kathy and Fs. I have found many sites the mysteriously quit working. To quote Kathy all I can say is......BAD BAD BAD BAD....