Alberta Agriculture will PAY for export power lines...

[samhill]

I understand that farmers only want to remove the
monopoly, those who wish to have a CWB can have it
and use it, it doesn't have to end. The monopoly
applied to only designated Canadians is obviously
unjust and discriminatory. Yes, let us all vote with our
trucks.

[cchurch]

Wow, too many dumb asses in one thread, I am surprised the internet didn't explode.

[ALLFARMER]

Just like the City of Edmonton needs to shut down the Municipal Airport BS!! Its all about the money.... Mayor mandel was put into office with developers money. Aero medical flights take a back seat to big money. Shame on Edmonton! Time to start acting like the provincial capital and stop thinking only about yourselves

Time to wake up provincial conservaties Danielle Smith will be taking over!!

[ASRG]

The powerline scandal is just one example of how far the present Alberta
government has fallen into corruption, cronyism, and decay. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar this time, but this isn't the biggest "scandal".......just the one they got caught on...today!
Now if you want to see a real scandal take a close look at the Carbon Capture bill (bill 24)? That one makes the powerlines look like "small potatoes"!
Again it involves the government expropriating property from farmers with no compensation and no recourse to the courts. It will cost Albertas taxpayers $2 billion up front and $1 billion to $3 billion for the next 40 years! The taxpayers will not only pay for the upgrader to knock the C02 out of the bitumen and pay for the C02 trunkline but they will pay all operating costs and be liable for any sudden or gradual releases of the C02!
Eventually this Carbon capture scam will be in the news as one of the greatest scandals in our history.....but Albertans haven't woke up to it...yet! Keith Wilson is sounding the alarm on this crooked carbon capture deal already, but he can only do so much....and he pretty well has a fulltime job trying to hold these political crooks to account on the other "land grab bills"... Bills 19, 36 and 50!

[sumdumguy]

Francisco, you are bang on.

[checking]

Mr. Church.

No one is asking you to change your support for the CWB.

Indeed, your group of like minded farmers should be much more content now, not to have to force protestants to sit in your organizational pews. You will soon be able, with full support from your members, return to your core "pools", and get rid of all the poorly developed clutter that was enacted to mimic the open market.

You simply have to get over the idea that everyone likes to be forced to sit on your particular steeple. It makes for numb asses!!!

[agstar77]

Dual market = no CWB. Therefore no choice. It is that simple. Anyone who diputes that only has to look at Australia. A stand alone CWB could not survive as anything more than a marginal marketer against vertically integrated grain companies, who can afford to lose money at the bottom and make it up on processing. Anyone who believes otherwise is living in a fairytale. Unless the dual market CWB forms an exclusive partnership with a Bunge or Viterra it is doomed.

[jdepape]

Agstar:
If this is your answer to my question "Why should the fate of the CWB be decided by farmers?", it failed.

I understand why you think all this, but why should farmers get to vote on it?

[bucket]

cchurch/agstar

Are you the guys that support the cwb and when the cwb can't fill a boat phone all your friends of the cwb and find out all your production still can't fill the boat?

I find it annoying when cwb supporters with their "better than everyone else attitude" tell farmers what to do, but when the shit hits the fan like when the cwb pays millions in demurrage they are pretty quiet. Or can't gather the production to support the cwb that they like to force on everyone else.

It is pretty simple, if the cwb had the support you two claim, the cwb would never pay demurrage or be caught in a short squeeze which is coming again, because the many supporters would be able to fill the commitments the cwb makes. The fact is, there is not enough cwb supporters with the production to fill the contracts the cwb makes. And since the cwb has made no effort to listen to production farmers their fate is set - they are doomed.

[agstar77]

Because we are the ones affected by its demise not the urbanites that voted in the clons. As far as I know the government is not subsidizing the CWB directly so why should they dismiss it without the farmers running it have a say. I don't see them ordering open running rights on the rail lines for true competition and a free market. I don't see T4 whining about that.