Really really dry

[burnt]

I suppose how you define "relationship" would provide your answer, checking?

[begood]

I see no evidence that anyone, other than the Proverial "Mother Nature" has influenced our environment. Is she mentioned in any Biblical way, or in the Koran or any other book that millions may rely on for what they can not explain or come to terms with.
As for my trying to convert anyone to a certain point of view.................trust me when I say that is near impossible.

[bucket]

Look, I am not a religious person, but if the lord has anything to do with this, you have to wonder what's up.

Wesetern canadian farmers have been providing cheap food for the world and a fairly good wage for some 500 lost souls in Winnipeg for over 75 years, one would think he could provide reasonable weather to carry on this peasant lifestyle.

If prayers don't help, then its all scientific. Eventually it will return to normal. A dry spring followed by a spit of rain and a reasonble crop.

[begood]

Religious belief seems to have a direct correlation with lack of tolerance and mean spiritness. Quote me something that directs zealots on those matters.

[burnt]

You might well be onto something there about the effects of religious beliefs, begood!

However, it fails to provide a basis for intolerance and mean-"spiritness" in those who claim to hold no religious beliefs . . . or do you believe that such like are free from those foibles?

[burnt]

Religous beliefs also have a direct correlation with the Red cross,Salvation Army,World vision,Compassion etc.What if God is totally in control of the weather but at the same time cares about our holiness more than our income.Sorry if it offends some of you-my last comment on religion(for a while)

[farmaholic]

Instead of wading into this topic I think I will go out and wade through the pot holes Mother Nature(the power greater than me) has bestowed upon me. I will accept what has been bestowed upon me instead of asking for Divine intervention to change things to better suit my will than that of what is. That being said, to each their own and what ever works for you( to help get you through it) is what you should practice. Best of luck to all as this is a challenging occupation.

[Lifer]

Close to edmonton we had fields dry like yours WD9.

We received a timely shower about a week ago and fields look pretty good right now. May finish seeding today.

[TOM4CWB]

Begood:

Luke 6:35-Rather, love your enemies, help them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then you will have a great reward. You will be the children of the Most High God. After all, he is kind to unthankful and evil people."

Matthew 5:39-But I tell you not to oppose an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn your other cheek to him as well.

"It may be the most often quoted and yet most misunderstood verse in the whole Bible. People who have never even cracked open a Bible have heard and quoted this verse. “Do not judge so that you will not be judged” Matthew 7:1

Usually that verse is used like a hammer to immediately stop any discussion about the rightness or wrongness of a persons behavior. Almost invariably if someone claims that a certain action or behavior is wrong, someone will say, “But Jesus said we are not to judge anyone”. The clear implication is that we can never say if some behavior is sin or not because we are not to judge. Sometimes these words are shouted out in anger and rage, “You can’t judge me!”.

What is possibly more amazing than the fact that so many people quote this verse and the concept of not judging, is that so many people could get the real meaning so completely wrong. This is especially true since the context makes it clear what Jesus meant by these words. When Jesus said that we should not judge unless we be judged also, he was not saying that we are to never judge if behavior is sin or not. What he was doing was giving us a caution to make sure that we are willing to be judged by the same standard of judgment. This verse is not a warning against judging an action. It is a warning against self deception and hypocrisy.

The way we know this is the same way that we usually know what the Bible teaches. We look at the context. The verse that immediately follow helps explain what Jesus was saying. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:2 In other words, if you are going to say that what someone else is doing is wrong then you better be prepared to be judged by the same standard."

[cottonpicken]

Chinese Story/philosiphy
(not word for word)

An old chinese farmer lost his only horse one day
and all the neighbours came and consoled him on
his lost,he simply said not to worry hard to say.

A few days later the horse returned with another
bigger more beautiful horse at its side and the
neighbours came to congratulate him on his good
fortune,to which he replyed,hard to say.

A while latter the farmers son fell in love with the
new horse but when riding it fell off and hurt his leg
real bad.The neighbours came by to consol the
farmer,to which he said hard to say.

months latter the army came by and conscripted all
the able bodied young men,the son was overlooked
and the rest died in battle,to which the old man
said.....


Just thought this story might fit in here.


But for people like Pars and i,we maybe more prone
to the viking death prayer during hard times,but
don't let me put words in her mouth,lol.

Lo, there do I see my Father..
Lo, there do I see my Mother
And my Sisters and my Brothers..
Lo, there do I see the line
Of my people back to the beginning..
Thay do bid me to take my place among them..
In the Halls of Valhalla,
Where the Brave may live forever.

[hedgehog]

philosophical stuff.
the struggle to grow food is the struggle for life itself. it hasnt changed for a million years.
the early farmer digging his land by hand in the spring felt the same things we feel today. all the technology is just a sideshow.

[TOM4CWB]

Hedge;

Good thought!

It is much more in our heads than we remember... weather patterns... frost 7 times last year... dry seed beds... when the sun shines... or the shower brings a crop... we forget how delicate and fragile our existance really is. The power of the sun. Earth spinning through space like a top... the moon causing weather shifts... so many factors. And all this finely balanced system... running with such precision and close tolerances... happened without planning and by accident?

RATHER

A creative force... behind all this beauty... is much easier to have faith and hope in... than the great accident by chance chaos big bang universe religion!

We are blessed. I am thankful we can help those in burnt out Slave Lake... as do those folks do in Manitoba and SK... for flood ravaged communities who need helping hands as well.

Asking for help... and sharing goodness and hope with those who need encouragement... is humanity at its best. This is how the vast western Canadian community became the great land it is today. A proud heritage of faith, hope and love.

God Bless Canada!!!

[Happytrails]

Begood should familiarize him/her self with the lives of messrs Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Might change mind on where mean and intolerant grow. HT

[checking]

A group of halluciating writers whose stories were brought on by cave gas managed to scribe embellish many words around a few words of historical facts. They spiced them up into what became known as a bible. Ever since Tom has been quoting them. I think it's because he's inhaled too much grain dust!!!

Still thinking about that propulsion system we were never intended to see. (lol)

[TOM4CWB]

Checking,

The best part of these 'cave' writings... is that humanity has the right to choose the destiny each person picks for themselves. There will always be consequenses for our choices, yes, but being human requires us to allow each other to be free agents... with the right to make up our own minds on what is truth...

Like 'do unto others... as you would have them do to you!'

"Matthew 5 43-"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you. 45In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven. He makes his sun rise on people whether they are good or evil. He lets rain fall on them whether they are just or unjust. 46If you love those who love you, do you deserve a reward? Even the tax collectors do that! 47Are you doing anything remarkable if you welcome only your friends? Everyone does that! 48That is why you must be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. Don't Do Good Works to Be Praised by People"