Feeding 9 bln people by 2050

[BTOfarmallll]

Hedge please do not spew that rhetoric on here to the Masses. We ain't runnin outta Oil anytime soon nor in 25-100 years and beyond. Research the actual facts. Keep filling up yer Suv's!!!!!!!!!

[checking]

Tom Lets start extracting those millios of tons of nitrogen run off water from the flooded areas. Better yet; control those lightning strikes through weather modification techniques. Hook up that perpetual motion machine, and convert base metals into gold.
Why not just sell thouse millions of gallons of ethanol for spirits and buy all the gasoline and diesel required from the profits. Everyone will benefit.
Did you get your cold fusion machine perfected. And dust off that magnetic seed treater that provided huge yield increases for a relatively minor cost. They do last almost indefinately you know.
And now that humans can do anything, including things that should not have been done; or those advances that have "cost to benefit ratios much less than unity" lets allow all creativity to flourish.
And why not nitrogen fixation for all living organisms. Then we only have one variety needed. Biodiversity was such a waste of resources don't you think.
Any of these scenarios remind you of being a Creator. Thats the kind of a Creator we now need. Maybe we can simply alter minds so that everyone just thinks they are full of luscious food; travelling the universe and fully enjoying themselves.
There are man made miracles. Those nuclear power plants are clean, fool proof and capable of tremendous energy output. A little hard to control sometimes but lets ignore that detail. You want a bet that they wouldn't be an excellent way to get the heavy oil out of Saskatchewan tar sands. And we could add a shack on the side to produce medical isotopes. There are two problems solved at once. A few extra years of world oil production and with a little improvement in cancer treatment we will all live for hundreds of years.
One or two companies just got the coal rights for a swath of land from the Estevan area practically to Alberta border. And it goes from the international border to some tens of miles north. I've got a hunch they plan on working their "minerals"; although coal probably isn't now considered a mineral. Still there are tremendous coal reserves. Don't worry about the overburden or destrying the water aquifers in a pretty big chunk of Sask.
Oh there will be creativity all right; and it will be done without full thouht of the overall result. A lot will be done in panic mode because everything is "doubling" so fast.
And it will be done without people such as you understanding arithmetic; and by supporters who think the electricity we rely on comes from lightning.

[TOM4CWB]

Checking,

The only thing we have to fear... is fear itself.

Love hope and joy will provide all we need to construct our 'new' world. But Love is the most important of these!

Will there be a transformation... of course there will be!

[TOM4CWB]

Checking,

Take a really good hard long look at the sun. Then tell me exactly how it works.

When you have figured that out... then we can start on the N fixing plants... thunderstorms... harvesting ocean energy... geothermal.... the list goes on and on...

[begood]

Everyone has the same access to the compilations of all the tireless works of thousandsof persons who have dedicated their lives in research and attempting to understand how science can explain our surroundings.
You've got access to almost all that information; just as any other person has. SUPRISE its your same internet connection that I know you use. And there's enough more on every subject to last anyone a lifetime.
A very good start is WIKI Thats like an encyclopedia. Youtube videos are even more interesting; especially if you have a high enough bandwidth to support real time video transmission.
And thats only the beginning of your life long learning. The caveat is that you must possess an open mind, process all the information that at times seems overwhelming and conflicting; and be willing to come to a rational opinion.
Did you really need to be told this..

[begood]

As for looking at the sun; don't do it. Your mother must have told you that too.
The sun is good for another billion years or so; before it changes really significantly to have a serious different impact on the eath.
No one is going to ever interfere with how the sun works anyway; but we are capable of messing with a much smaller, more hospitable Earth. Remember there is a delicate atmosphere between earth's surface and the sun. That where the clouds (associated with rain, and contrails of jets in the stratosphere and space shuttles, rockets etc.), and ozone layers and chemical composition changes (eg. CO2 increases from releasing carbon stored from plant and organic matter that was initially captured by photosynthesis) all take place. All these and more, have particularly in the past few decades had a human component. We've changed our environment somewhat. We will surely change it a lot more. Can we not agree on that at least?
It would be logical to conclude that there has had to be some impact. If we tried to clean up our tracks; we couldn't either afford nor accomplish what we have done so far. We are just living with it so far.
We are bent on using every reachable stored fossil fuels in short order. Food production from arable lands is still going to be essential, and I fail to see how any of our fossil fuel powered equipment is going to be adaptable.

[cottonpicken]

Tom i do love your optimism,like my
grandaddy,always looking forward saying don't
worry,till he brings up losing his brother in the war.

There was no happy end on that.

If a hundred million chinese men landed on the
beaches of canada there would be no happy ending
in that.

resources are limited

"when goods don't cross boarders,armies do"
-cant remember author

[burnt]

When I read some of the above postulations I am reminded of the applicability of the quote - "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get me . . ."

Did it occur to you that logic and rationality are not interchangeable? Which one do you want to employ?

Because when you mix them, you end up with something similar to "faith", but with a different basis.

[TOM4CWB]

burnt,

begood is totally allowed to contemplate his (or her) navel... begood chose to not look at the sun and appears to care less about how it works.

Talk about a closed mind.

We have so much to learn.
There is a common denominator between humanity and God. We were created in his image. God is a creator. Therefore we do and always will explore, be curious, enjoy human relationships, and build greater communities IF we dwell on and build our creative character.

Begood can not stop this part of humanity... no matter how hard he (or she) may try!
T

[begood]

OK Tom Your turn to tell me how the sun works. Also project when if ever you and most others will wish they were dead; instead of a general suffering from shortages, starvation and unbearable lack of resources, and over crowding because of unsustainability.
Where will humanity be headed after 2050?

[TOM4CWB]

Begood;

The general state of humanity... the food avaliable to people... has never been better than it is today.

50 years ago the doomsday people thought we would die by now.

Nasa studies the sun... we are learning new facts each day with modern space technology and monitoring.

Don't expect me to accept your shallow myths. History does not support you. Neither does the Bible.

[burnt]

begood's thinking? puts him into the company of other noteworthy minds . . .

http://dailycapitalist.com/2010/04/29/message-to-earth-day-doomsayers-its-getting-better-not-worse/

[burnt]

Joke time - what's the difference between Harold Camping and Paul Ehrlich?

[TOM4CWB]

I give...

But perhaps it is this?

"



Gut feelings more than mere guesswork


by Cynthia Ross Cravit, 50Plus.com
Do we know more than we think we know? A study shows that intuition may be more reliable than conscious thought.


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When faced with a tough decision, it's a question many of us have asked of our friends and ourselves: "What does your gut say?" We've been taught to trust our instincts – and as it turns out, for good reason.

A US study suggests that intuition may in fact stem not from mere guesswork but from information stored just beneath the surface of the conscious brain. And not only that: intuition may be more reliable than conscious thought processes when making decisions.

Intuition: A matter of memory

The Northwestern University study, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience , found that memories that can't be consciously accessed are surprisingly accurate.

For the study, participants were given a special recognition test that involved watching 12 colourful kaleidoscope images that flashed up on a computer screen.

For half of the test, participants were allowed to concentrate on the images, but for the rest of the time they were deliberately distracted. A short while later, they were shown pairs of similar images and asked to identify which one they had seen before.

At the same time, using the latest brain-reading technology, researchers were able to detect brain waves that were distinct from those associated with conscious memory experiences. In other words, researchers could tell if the participant's answers came from their conscious or unconscious memory.

The results?

First of all, surprisingly, people were more accurate in selecting the right image when they had been distracted than when they paid full attention, researchers said.

"We may actually know more than we think we know in everyday situations, too," said Ken Paller, professor of psychology at Northwestern. "Unconscious memory may come into play, for example, in recognizing the face of a perpetrator of a crime or the correct answer on a test. Or the choice from a horde of consumer products may be driven by memories that are quite alive on an unconscious level."

The study also links so called ‘lucky guesses' to valid memories and suggests that people need to be more receptive to multiple types of knowledge, Paller added.

And while conscious memory is certainly important, the study suggests we shouldn't rely on it alone. "It (the study) suggests that we also need to develop our intuitive nature and creativity. Intuition may have an important role in finding answers to all sorts of problems in everyday life -- including big ones such as our ailing economy."

The study backs up previous research showing that amnesia victims with severe memory problems often have strong implicit memories.

Source: Northwestern University News Centre"

http://lifestyle.sympatico.ca/home/gut_feelings_more_than_mere_guesswork/8e85f557

[TOM4CWB]

burnt,

My 'gut feeling' was that I would find the answer if I googled it!

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