winter wheat

[begood]

We seeded 70% but now we are done.So thinking of winter wheat on the remaining acres.Does anyone know of a variety they would recommend for the milling market.Maybe some of these grain companies will be lining up sales for next August.

[TOM4CWB]

NFUr,

We grow radiant. It is hardy as we are in northern AB... after a decade of growing it... the 'northern vigour' has never been better!

Our crops look fabulous... seeded the end of Sept 10.

Cert Seed avaliable Galloway Seeds; 780-998-3036 in bin from last year.

[agstar77]

Last year most of the winter wheat was burnt around here due to the high fusarium. This year could be a repeat with a very dense stand in the few stands that were seeded last fall.Very poor resistance if you are in a fusarium area. The problem seems to be getting worse with winter wheat. The miracle 100 bus yields of a few years ago have evaporated into a nightmare. Just a warning to do your homework.

[$short]

When you seed winter wheat how early can you seed it. Just wondering if it will work on some of the un-seeded acres in our area. If we are going to seed a cover crop anyway maybe winter wheat would be a good option.

Can it take a bit of water in the spring. Do you plan on seeding it on well drained land.

[TOM4CWB]

$short,

'A bit of water' isn't a foot deep then remaining under water for 3 weeks.

Melt water on frozen ground hasn't been a problem for us... but pot holes that take weeks to dry up after the ground thaws will kill the winter wheat.

If big heavy rains in the summer... the amount lost seldom is more than what would be flooded out then in any event. But if easy rains come.... spring wheat will survive where winter wheat dies in the spring.

[$short]

Tom.....how early can you start to seed. Is August 1 too early.

[BreadWinner]

Dont seed till august 15 or it will get too big and will use too much fertilizer. It can winterkill if it gets too large and wont go dormant.

[TOM4CWB]

$short,

I would agree with BW... 15-20th is plenty early.... 25-30th more ideal.

[$short]

Thanks guys. Maybe it will be dry by then. Do you just put phos down when seeding it.

[TOM4CWB]

$short,

If 15 of Aug to 15 of Sept... I would only put 25lb act. N and PK at seeding. We then top dress in the early spring with 21, 34, or stabilised 46.

Dr. Ross McKenzie, Alberta Ag has done some recent work that indicates seeding in the last half of Sept could include all the N with the crop... if properly placed. We like the risk management opportunities of waiting till spring and top dressing the second stage of N then in winter wheat crop.

[Braveheart]

Don't seed before Aug 25 or the crown will get too big and leave the plant susceptible to winterkill.

Standing water in spring won't affect the crops' survival if it hasn't broken dormancy.

Re fusarium. It has been a problem in MB the last few years. But, my own theory on this is that in the last few years ww has been sown on the late side. It's maturity next year is largely affected by the seeding date. Early in/earlier off. The later seeding moves next years' flowering stage into the fusarium innoculum showers period.

The biggest hassle right now could be movement of some varieties from some catchement areas (to market). Our elevators still have bins of cwrw from last year with no prospect of movement anytime soon. Maybe the open market will change that Aug 1, 2012.

We're looking at growing some as we are only at 50% seeded and will stop trying now as I don't want to fight the other end of the growing season. We're considering a general purpose variety to go to Mohawk in Minnedosa. We'll check on contracts, etc.

[bucket]

Very informative thread.

Been thinking about seeding winter wheat instead of going around potholes all day long. In three weeks there will be straight runs again. Better for the land. Better decision overall.

Tried to tell crop insurance but all they say is seed till June 20.

[bucket]

Yah Iwould agree-we seeded late last year around the water and it resulted in headache and heartache.We probably won't have the combines rolling much before sept 1 so were hoping to seed some Aug 15-30(if it is dry enough)

[bucket]

Crop insurance extending deadlines force farmers to make bad decisions for their farms.

In the long run it doesn't save the government any money.

I told them to start the process for the yield loss for this year and they thought I was joking. Pissed me off. They could have the premium for the winter wheat and very likely there would be no yield loss next year like there will be for spring seeded crops now.

[furrowtickler]

We seeded w/wht up to the 13th Sept last year then ran out of canola stb at the time. May be a good thing now as our w/wht no looks like a skinny crackhead on meth. W/wht survived excelent and had a very good stand, sprayed weeds and top dressed then no rain. Thinner now than three weeks ago by far. Oh well, the rest of the crop is still hangin in there.
I agree seed after the 20th Aug and before 15th sept, if you want to chance it - just don't seed all you remaining ac - pretty risky.
BTW fishin is great from Keely to Bufalo Narrows. If you can get a chance, go. We caught about 120 wally's in a day and a half, beer was cold, and the weather was excellent to. At times we had to quit fishing for a beer break - no shit.