Province Launches Campaign To Save Canadian Wheat Board.

[TOM4CWB]

wm,

I wouldn't use the Crow and CWB in the same perspective... they are VERY different.

It is a fact that the 2 railways were given $billions of land a mineral resourses... in return for hauling our produce.
THe word 'perpetuity' was used by Minister Goodale... until he decided to give it away.

"per·pe·tu·i·ty/ˌpərpiˈt(y)o͞oitç/Noun


1. A thing that lasts forever or for an indefinite period, in particular.

2. A bond or other security with no fixed maturity date"


The CWB monopoly... on the other hand... was put in place in 1943 to expropriate our farm produce... and the crow to a large extent held the whole package together because the freight was so low no other alternative market could arbitage western Canadian prices at the farm gate.

SO... from 1943 to 1947... the CWB monopoly was binding... then from 1947 to 1993... growers were exempt on the export side... if they sold using US or pedigreed seed grading. When Goodale took back over from Chalie Mayer in 1993... then he persecuted growers who dared to pass by the pools... and sell fusarium infected sample wheat for more than the CWB/prairie pools were offering for high grade milling wheat.

Goodale had to put a stop to this problem... hence the present CWB monopoly was officially put in place May 17 1996 by Goodale 15 minutes after the Manitoba Court said David Sawatsky not guilty.

"Grain export victory. (a Manitoba court found farmer David Sawatzky innocent of exporting wheat and barley to the U.S. without a permit from the Canadian Wheat Board)(Brief Article)
Article from: Maclean's | May 27, 1996"

THen Goodale hand cuffed western grain growers... leading to:

"Canadian Wheat Farmers Are Jailed
AP Online; November 1, 2002; 310 words ...staff. The farmers were charged in 1996 under the Canada Customs Act of illegally transporting grain across the U.S. border...wheat south of the border, instead of $2.20 from the Canadian Wheat Board. The farmers jailed Thursday had been ordered to pay..."


So today... after 3 tries to free barley... and growers in prision for selling their own produce... Manitoba demands the CWB remain.

This is obviously a very emotional and complex proplem... about as political as it can get. However the Crow and the CWB... are very different... yet are very connected by history!!!

[Lifer]

"What he means is that Viterra will be there to gobble up as much business as they can get to benefit Viterra but NOT necessarily the western Canadian FARMER."

Wilagro. So what.

[TOM4CWB]

Lifer,

The dividends are flowing already.

CWB Market choice is already causing grain co's to grade on end use spec...

It is about time our system provided value to growers... instead of extracting value FROM growers.

Know what your spec is... and who needs it... the key to value extraction... THe Box is open!

It is a great day... to be a grain farmer; in Western Canada!!!

God Bless Canada!

[Lifer]

Hi Tom. I don't know why you directed your post at me.

I would like to understand from Wilagro what else he meant by his post. I don't see the statement made as very significant.
It's the same to me as saying the manitoba premier is going to do what he thinks is best for manitoba. So what.

[Burbert]

Yup, the Crow is dead and gone. Butt
we've really made big money since it
died.
(NOT). Freight has been off load onto
farmers, so that's good. Grain
companies with HTP's are way more
efficient, hence farmers are making way
more money (NOT). Trucking incentives
make farmers way more money (NOT). The
only thing that is helping farmers right
now is that the BS machine running at
full steam, makes way more money fer the
organic guys/gals (NOT). Now getting
rid the CWB will likely make Comedian
farmers way more money (NOT).......

[wilagro]

Lifer: Viterra is not a Co-op. Do you really think that they will not make money off of the farmer? At least the CWB distributed some savings back to the membership...whether you think that it was enough is beside the point.

[Fransisco]

Savings? What on earth are you talking about? We got/get less for our board grains than everyone else around us. By the time the Board is done with all their lousy deductions on our grain all we get are a few crumbs.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

The CWB Distributes some 'savings' back to farmers?

What exactly do you mean by this?

Our families wheat is worth $10/bu... and the CWB offers $7 in return... how exactly is that 'savings' being returned to our farm?

[agstar77]

Your wheat may be worth 10 and mine 11 , but not until it gets to market and the railways and graincos have taken their cut. That won't change when there is an open market. Deluding people that they will all receive more is a fool's game. Some will get more and some will get less, the sum will stay the same.

[Lifer]

I must be nuts. I need to learn how to read. Wilagro and Agstar too. You guys are saying that it is bad for Viterra and rail companies to make money. Of course they need to make money.

Are you looking for somebody else to be responsible for making you money? That's what it sounds like to me.

[agstar77]

It's not bad if you are a shareholder in either.

[Lifer]

So it's bad for companies and people you deal with to make money?