CWB Release

[charliep]

Will leave for discussion. For my education, what is the benefit of price pooling and its close relative, the pricing pace model? It would seem to me that a farmer can do the same thing on their own.

Could your vision of price pooling be accomplished with shorter pooling, breaking the spring wheat excluding durum classes into separate pools, using things like malt barley cash plus, etc.? I suspect there are things currently the CWB could be doing to manage their risk better and in a forward thinking manner, allow them the opportunity for survival in an open market.

[charliep]

One other comment before the real debate. Always looking for common themes/things that can be agreed on in a new CWB. I note the reference to a new organization and harvesting opportunity.

In that document, the CWB b of d of the time talks about a move from being a shared governace corporation supported by legislation to a not-for-profit, non-share capital corporation (supported by government legislation I suppose). They also talk about a for profit corporation. Not sure what this means. Perhaps someone can help.

Has anyone else thought about governance and structure of a renewed CWB. Traditional cooperative? New generation cooperative? Corporate?

Also note the reference to CN and Petrcan being able to develop an asset base. If this is a good idea, why wasn't it included in the original legislation? Seems a strange comparison but was talked about.

[charliep]

Reference was to Air Canada - not petrocan. Sorry about that.

[wilagro]

I would say that Ritz and the CONs really don't care what happens to the CWB once the compulsory aspect is removed.

The CWB will be an orphan with its powers reduced to the point of a standstill and will quickly starve.

The board of directors will be the pallbearers as the corpse is carried away for a quick burial.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77,

There are NO PROBLEMS too BIG to SOLVE:

ONLY PEOPLE TOO SMALL TO SOLVE THEM.

You and Chairman Oberg need to think through your program of deceit. A thinking person... can see straight through it from 1000 miles away.

You intend to prove the voluntary marketing proponents wrong... by doing every thing possible to sabotage the CWB Corp... to prove this point; THAT ONLY THE CWB 'SINGLE DESK' CAN ATTAIN PREMIUM PRICES.

This could not be further from the truth.

Federated Co-operative attains excellent marketing benefits to our farm. They keep input costs down... and are searching for opportunities to serve our communities. Federated is BIGGER than the CWB... and well managed.

CENEX in the US is the same... and arbitage UP grain markets. The CWB would do well to link up with a global cooperative to provide real and tangible benefits to us as grain growers.

If your buddies do not have the vision to fix the CWB Agstar77... please have the decency to tell then to step aside and allow those who care about creating prosperity, in our communities, to do the job at hand.

I get it.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

So how do we stop Oberg and the other 'single minded' directors from sabotaging the CWB?

Or do you care?

Don't you secretly want the CWB destroyed... so you can gloat over the 'broken promise' the proponents of the 'single desk' can claim... because these managers and CWB directors took out a 45 Magnium and shot the CWB till it was finished???

[wilagro]

Ritz is the minister in charge of the CWB. Only his direction will save the CWB. If he chooses to cut it loose without a solid business plan then it will fail. It has nothing to do with my feelings about the CWB at all.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

Chairman Oberg has said the CWB will fail without the 'single desk'.

There are literally thousands of cooperative marketing agencies... around the globe... that operate sucessfully without the absurd power to confiscate their members property.

How can Chairman Oberg... in good conscience... take the position he has... claiming failure... of a cooperative marketing structure... without any common courtesy for one grower who desires a voluntary CWB to work with in the future?

Shouldn't Oberg step down... if he refuses to work on creating a vibrant and premium seeking new marketing cooperative?

[Hopperbin]

Wilagro Agstar and Oberge why do you think it is not possible to leverage say get 20 percent of the wheat or malt signed up to some sort of price pooling plan and go with it. Why do you say farmers will split and sell to the highest price. Do you know that I and a lot of other growers around here are selling feed wheat and barley to 2 local feed lot and one is ethanol plant on a verbal agreement on price and delivery date? Next I would like to ask you a question, how many farmers do you think say **** the contract and deliver elsewhere when the price rises? Very few because if done once you do not do business there again, I think it does happen cost of doing business. Remember this is verbal nothing signed, I do 300 thousand every year this way and my word is rock solid. If some organization could give me a leveraged price pool I would certainly be interested. Don't need to do verbal though LOL.

[Burbert]

Ritz, solid business plan. NOT LIKELY.
The guy is a dummy. Great or Greatest Gag
Minister of all time!