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    #16
    Wilagro,

    So how do we stop Oberg and the other 'single minded' directors from sabotaging the CWB?

    Or do you care?

    Don't you secretly want the CWB destroyed... so you can gloat over the 'broken promise' the proponents of the 'single desk' can claim... because these managers and CWB directors took out a 45 Magnium and shot the CWB till it was finished???

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      #17
      Ritz is the minister in charge of the CWB. Only his direction will save the CWB. If he chooses to cut it loose without a solid business plan then it will fail. It has nothing to do with my feelings about the CWB at all.

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        #18
        Wilagro,

        Chairman Oberg has said the CWB will fail without the 'single desk'.

        There are literally thousands of cooperative marketing agencies... around the globe... that operate sucessfully without the absurd power to confiscate their members property.

        How can Chairman Oberg... in good conscience... take the position he has... claiming failure... of a cooperative marketing structure... without any common courtesy for one grower who desires a voluntary CWB to work with in the future?

        Shouldn't Oberg step down... if he refuses to work on creating a vibrant and premium seeking new marketing cooperative?

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          #19
          Wilagro Agstar and Oberge why do you think it is not possible to leverage say get 20 percent of the wheat or malt signed up to some sort of price pooling plan and go with it. Why do you say farmers will split and sell to the highest price. Do you know that I and a lot of other growers around here are selling feed wheat and barley to 2 local feed lot and one is ethanol plant on a verbal agreement on price and delivery date? Next I would like to ask you a question, how many farmers do you think say **** the contract and deliver elsewhere when the price rises? Very few because if done once you do not do business there again, I think it does happen cost of doing business. Remember this is verbal nothing signed, I do 300 thousand every year this way and my word is rock solid. If some organization could give me a leveraged price pool I would certainly be interested. Don't need to do verbal though LOL.

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            #20
            Ritz, solid business plan. NOT LIKELY.
            The guy is a dummy. Great or Greatest Gag
            Minister of all time!

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              #21
              I am already so tired of listening to "CWB can't survive" and all the questions about how to transition and or what the board would like.

              Yank the monopoly. If it floats, fine. If it sinks, so what. If it needs legislated control to survive it shouldn't. That is, if in the free marketplace the people at 423 Main St. can't or won't see how to operate, how to satisfy customers, how to serve clients (farmers), how to approach and work with grain handlers, railways etc. then to hell with them.

              The best thing for me would be if the wrecking ball started swinging at 12:01 am Aug. 1, 2012. My rights have been trampled long enough.

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                #22
                Burbert, you and Agstar are nauseating. Ritz is up for the battle because he knows the truth- farmers have been robbed of their product and their dreams because of pure tyranny.

                The propaganda mill and negative directors are not getting your way so they are sulking like babies.

                Grow up.

                Freedom and democracy will prevail.

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                  #23
                  For an organization that says it is run by farmers, I find it ironic that Oberg is asking the government to explain how the cwb will survive.

                  Oberg has been given his marching orders, now go find the solution instead of acting like a spoiled kid who picks up his marbles and goes home when he loses.

                  If he was any kind of director he would be taking on the challenge and looking for ways the cwb would survive.

                  INCOMPETENT is what he is and if he had an ounce of pride he would resign if he can't meet the challenge laid in front of him.

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                    #24
                    Its the smart thing to do as far as the board is concerned. The best solution for survival is to keep forcing the farmers to give their grain to them. Any other economic model would be less $$$.

                    Strike fear into the wilagro's and get them to rally behind the CWB cuz we don't want to loose the only grain marketer that is 'for the farmer'. Have the MB government and NFU et al to do your lobbying for you to insure survival. Oberg is probably doing the right tactic given his marching orders.

                    Publicly he can say this while as their duty in the background be working on a plan for survival. Its what i would do if i was in his boots. Rally support publicly, plan privately. Its politics pure and simple.

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                      #25
                      Perhaps one of the areas that needs to be talked about is the pace of change and not having the wheat market go into a non desicion vacuum. Will not the change starting August 1, 2012 really starts with February 1, 2012 with the start of the CWB pricing pace strategy. Even before then, the approach will impact the CWB's ability to offer producer payment options starting early this fall. Won't dig it for you (have posted before) but the federal government task force on CWB change from 2006 talked about a schedule of events/timing strategy.

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                        #26
                        It will be interesting to see how many contracts come to the board for the 11/12 crop year. My wheat will waiting for the freedom day because Oberg can't get his head out of his ass and find solutions.

                        I think the board supporters have numbers but their production doesn't cover sales. That has been proven by the fact the cwb could not fill durum boats for 6 weeks. If the cwb supporters were there with the production, the boats would have been loaded easily within the required time frame. Those are real indicators of cwb support. And it is not there.

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                          #27
                          I can already tell you that there is a North Dakota Farmer's Co-op Elevator setting up to convert their facility to buy Canadian barley for Busch. It is 10 miles south of the border. It lost its rail service a few years ago but the tracks remain. Through talks with BN and Busch they figure they can attract enough malt barley to restore train service. Giddyup.

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                            #28
                            Braveheart.
                            Not saying you are wrong on the prospect of new markets but. I would be a lot happier if markets were being encouraged here in Western Canada.

                            When the pasta plant went south it was because of the CWB and everyone was pissed off. Now with the CWB gone should we be happy that the markets are being built in the USA for our malt also?

                            I myself would be pushing our market place for a pasta plant here in western Canada and that we want a market for the malt here in Canada. With the CWB gone why be so exited to ship our raw product to the USA for them to make profit on handling our grain?

                            I just don't see the logic.

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                              #29
                              I am as nationalistic as they come. I would prefer and welcome Canadian enterprise. The proposed project is not to a new plant, but as I understand an exixting malt house.

                              But what excites me is the prospect of competition it provides. In my experience malt barley (in Canada) has been a very unsatisfying experience. Poor price signals, issues with rejected loads, a less than commercial method of sample submission etc. is a system just begging for a competitive marketplace to straighten it out.

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                                #30
                                Braveheart,

                                Just as with Canola... so it should be with wheat barley and durum. Trade both ways. WHY NOT? This is only healthy.

                                We do it with farm equipmwnt. We do it with Automotive manufacturers. We do it with fertilizer and now farm chems. Veggies... grass seed... fuel... oil... equipment... Nat. gas... trains... buses... airplanes... computers... internet...

                                And CWB grains are a problem???

                                Have we ever been fed a hay rack full of weeds!

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