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    #31
    Comparing an office building to grain companies that have unlimited resources?

    That is a fair comparison?

    How is an office building going to accept grain?

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      #32
      Do you just choose to not understand that grain companies will compete to try to market CWB grains in an open market since they make money handling grain? Yes an office can market grain very well if they choose. Its obvious the CWB does not want to even try since they are so incompetent.

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        #33
        ntergrity. listen to yourself. read your last post. Why is the CWB so great then if they are only an office building? What makes confiscating farmers garin the difference?

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          #34
          <i>”Comparing an office building to grain companies that have unlimited resources?”</i>

          Grain companies have resources, capital and otherwise, that they've accumulated by doing the business of shipping CWB and non-board commodities. They may have more resources than they otherwise might have without the guaranteed handling charges from board grains, but they are certainly not “unlimited”. In fact it looks like the CWB resources may be closer to “unlimited” if they can throw away tens of millions of our dollars in “discretionary trading”.

          <i>“That is a fair comparison?” </i>

          YES, except the unlimited resources part

          <i>“How is an office building going to accept grain?”</i>

          We have discussed on Agri-ville before about the money made by grain companies on CWB grains being more than open market commodities, and I've never heard anyone refute it (or even try).
          Why wouldn't a grain company want to continue this relationship where they simply charge the CWB their guaranteed handling charges which are more than what they can make on non-board grains? In fact they may actually charge less afterward, trying to compete with other grain companies for CWB business. An added advantage for them is that since they are such excellent premium price achievers, they should be able to easily out-perform any pricing that grain companies may offer to farmers, especially since the grain company would make less money from handling the grain that way anyway.

          The “price premium achieving CWB” is the story we've been told, but now they are telling us that they would be out of business if we aren't forced to offer them grain. Why wouldn't everyone want to contract with the CWB if the alternative is to be selling for the lower open market price offered by grain companies?

          Reality doesn't square with the narrative we've been told for far too long already, and as farmer have access to more information than ever before in history, we are finally beginning to learn the truth. The CWB knows full well that they don't offer prairie farmers anything other than a poor price with deductions for their CWB wages and benefits taken out first.

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            #35
            Man it would be a challenge trying to buy equipment from you guys.

            "Son of a bitch you confiscated my tractor."

            "No, I bought it from you."

            "**** YOU GET OFF MY PROPERTY YOU COMMIE."

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              #36
              Can't answer the questions or respond to the actual comments I f? Good comeback, for a ten year old.

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                #37
                I_F

                Would you buy a tractor from someone who says " I can sell you this tractor as long as you promise not to get another quote as I can assure you that you are getting the best price, trust me".

                We can have a vote starting August 1, 2012 and it will be held with bushels. If you and your fellow ideologs supply the CWB with enough bushels, it will stay in business. If the CWB can not garner enough business to stay in business, forcing me to support it does not make it right.

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                  #38
                  Well said rodb

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                    #39
                    Who the he'll is this looser integrit farmer. Your
                    so out to lunch man. It's my crop not yours and
                    every one else. I grew it,sorted it , harvest it, sell
                    it. It's mine. All I want is to be let out. You can
                    stay if you really are a farmer. I just want out, I'll
                    sign a 100 year contract, my kids don't want in
                    and my 84year old father never wanted in. The
                    cwb cost our farm millions over 3 generations.
                    Our us relatives were close to us or below in the
                    60s but since then they have gained and we
                    have lost on cereals. Canola has helped since
                    the 60s but making a profit on half your farm and
                    losing on the half the cwb handles should be a
                    sign to most folks. Yet some just don't get it. So
                    to those that don't stay with your cwb just let me
                    out. Please!

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                      #40
                      I_F

                      You do realize plenty of multi national grain companies buy canadain grain with just an office building or a telephone number and use the existing grain handling systems to make it happen.

                      The whole cwb mantra of getting a price premium is bullshit because now they say they cant compete. If they were that good their so called premium would keep them in business monopoly or not.

                      Its an urban myth.

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                        #41
                        a plebiscite /// director elections as corrupt as they are u dont think with the technolgy there is now a days the cwb has already thought of a way to make up boxes of extra ballots to be sent in from all over western canada

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                          #42
                          I_F;

                          As I posted on the Sun/Adler video segments... the reason CWB pool prices ARE SO LOW... is Part IV Section 46 requires the CWB managers to intentionally make our pool payments as LOW as possible... to maintain the CWB 'single buying desk'.

                          I pitty you.

                          You believe the CWB scam artists. and your money as well as mine paid the CWB to brain wash you into believing the 'premium' price theory.

                          The first excuse that prices are falling for our milling wheat is:

                          THE RUSSIANS AND FOLKS IN THE FSU BLOCK... ARE UNDERCUTTING CWB PRICES.

                          i_F... WHAT does that tell you?

                          You have been scammed!

                          The CWB CAN NOT hold up international prices of milling grain... only western Canadian grain growers.

                          past Chairman Ritter said it well:

                          "You can get alot done with a smile... but you can get much more done with a gun and a smile!"

                          There is a simple reason the CWB chooses NOT to pay daily cash prices that are equal to Northern US wheat and durum and barley prices.

                          If the CWB did pay fair price... or even a premium price... this would end the CWB 'single buying desk' over grain growers in western Canada.

                          It is that simple.

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                            #43
                            Tom4CWBnot: I sincerely hope you get what is due for you after the "freedom train" arrives for you guys. However it may not be quite as rewarding as to make your dreams come true. Time will tell.

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                              #44
                              Wilagro,

                              I recall CWB claims 5 years ago... that they could... and would... match northern US prices any time any where.

                              Our logistical system is as much a cause of discounting value as anything else. International buyers expect service. Local processors expect quality & just in time delivery. AS we can meet their needs... we both win. Relationships like this is what brings value... good will and trust.

                              DO unto others... as I would have them do to me.

                              We have much to gain in being more effective administrators and better leaders.

                              I truly hope we all can be better served as we go forward into this new erra of cooperation and add value for growers everywhere in our great nation!

                              All the best Wilagro!

                              The best is yet to come!!!

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                                #45
                                Hmmmm, Hmmm, Hmmmm, Hmm, Hmmmmmm. WHY don't yous take the money from the purchase of the Ocean Going Freighters and build Comedian Wit Bored Inland Terminals. Yer lookin at roughly $10 Mill a Terminal. Then yous kin ship yer grain through Mission Terminal out East. Frick, do I have to do all the thinkin 4 Yous?????

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