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    #13
    I know different companies and end users will all have differing views. You're also right in that no one knows for sure how this will all shake out or look like. I think that the basic framework being built around contractual arrangements allows elbow room for a number of different scenarios. The marketplace would soon decide how the evolution of a new system would proceed.

    It is only the presence of the board in it's pooliing provider role that would be any different from how many other commodities are marketed. There exists all manner of companies that procure and ship everthing from peas to canaryseed, or flax or sunflowerrs or whatever. Very few have elevators or terminals and none are involved in railcar allocation. It works. It needs the will to make it work. The rest is not that hard.

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      #14
      Why can't you morons come up with a plan? It's your ****ing idea. You deal with it.

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        #15
        Here is a plan you dink. Call it,
        Canadian Wheat Associates.

        http://www.uswheat.org/uswPublic2009.nsf/index?OpenPage

        There, done, cannot say there is no model to follow. Funded by producer check off dollars not sure how well that would go around here. And not sure but the CWB should have plenty of experience to follow the model of what US Wheat Associates does. Some tweeking of course.

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          #16
          I was talking to a grain buyer from the USA. He is looking forward to working directly with Canadian farmers for value added end use markets without the bureaucracy of the CWB.

          Business Model - you need to have built up relationships and trust with your customers...I am not sure the CWB has done that.

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            #17
            Why do you guys care if the cwb survives or not?You hate it, dont want to use it but all you do is bitch.The govt is going to open it up so you got your wish.If it loses its single desk authority I dont care if its there or not.Its just another grain co.I can pool my own grain if thats all that is left.

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              #18
              "Talking to one elevator the feeling was that farmers will have to sign a contract with the CWB and/or the grain company before the grain is assessed for quality. Much like the malt is now."

              "This would releive grain companies from having to grade grain that they will not end up handling and know whether they are grading for CWB or themselves"

              How in Gods name does this look anything like competition. Sign a contract before they will even grade it? If they want it they will give me a grade before I need to sign a contract. Like you said, it looks like the "BROKEN" malt barley system. I don't think so!!!! Who ever dreamt this up needs to give his head a shake. Sounds too one-sided to me.

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                #19
                Exactly katoe. pool your own grain.

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                  #20
                  I like the Ontario OWPMB model... Ocean Spray Cranberries... Sunkist... the list of Marketers that growers support... without a 'single buying desk'... IS ENDLESS.

                  First order of business... is for AB SK and MB with the feds... to find a leader who has the skills and motivation to put this together.

                  Chairman Oberg and their group of 8 'blown flat tires' are about as helpful as a wingnut that has been crossthreaded...with both wings broken off!

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                    #21
                    Thats pretty harsh... and coming from a guy who doesn't understand arithmetic. Why would anyone have confidence in his CWB analysis and suggestions?

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                      #22
                      Begood,

                      Too Harsh?

                      Name one positive thing Oberg and his think alike directors have done... since he bacame chairman!

                      Forcing my family to buy ships we will never use?

                      Calling a 'plebicite' that is useless?

                      The $40/t 'adjustment factor' to pad the pools?

                      Telling us the only asset of value the CWB has... is the 'single desk' buying monopoly... that allows him/CWB managers to confiscate our grain at less than international prices?

                      About to sabotage a half a billion $$$ marketing organisation... because they are too short sighted and arrogant to step aside for the good of our communities and nation?

                      Please tell me why calling them crossthreaded broken wingnuts... is too harsh???

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                        #23
                        Tom: The grain will still get traded with or without the CWB monopoly: It will simply be a redistribution of dollars. Instead of the wasteful CWB selling our grain it will be the "streamlined" grain companies and MAYBE more will flow back to the producers pockets if they see fit. This will be interesting......... . Things are never so bad that they couldn't be worse, or so good that they couldn't be better.

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                          #24
                          I don't want anyone to believe I think there won't be any premium niche sales made, there will and would be better served by less red tape. But the large scale export business, which will cover the majority of grain, will likely be done by the giants. Again, maybe some of the savings from the inefficiencies in today's system can be passed back, I hope.

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