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[TOM4CWB]

You are strange.

Cheers!

[wilagro]

Canadian government give subsidies to farmers. Hahahahahahahahahahaha best laugh I've heard today. This government will give us NADA today, tomorrow or next year. We are being hung out to dry very soon with no CWB working on our behalf...just like in the good old days when the farmers were ripped off when our dads farmed.

There had better be more support for our farm organizations such as the NFU or its going to be Hell out here in the west. Who is going to dominate the marketing of grain and who will have more influence?...the farmers or the corporations who live off of the avails of the farmer.

[jdepape]

Prairie fire:
Some things to think about.

The average trucking premium on wheat is over
$6.00/tone.
The average net rate that grain companies pay
(with incentives) is just north of $ 6.00/tonne.

In other words, farmers pay on average about
the same as what grain companies are paying,
regardless of the single car rate being deducted
on your cash ticket. And being a supporter of the
CWB and pooling, I suspect you would be quite
satisfied with averaging things out like this.

As for producer cars and short lines....when
anyone talks about losing these, it is always on
the basis of "losing" the CWB and not just the
single desk. It seems to me that the CWB could
play an important role here by partnering up with
Mission Terminal and Churchill and whoever else
they want, and the CWB could continue to
support producer car loaders and branch lines.

If it's true - as some say - that producer cars are
dead without the CWB because the grain
companies don't want to deal in them, then it
would be an ideal place for the CWB.

It's up to Oberg and Co now. If I were A
producer car loader, I'd be calling Oberg or my
director and pressing them on this one.

[hedgehog]

guys, you missed my point, i said PRODUCTION subsidies have stopped.
There is no need now to grow a crop or animal in order to get govt cash.
The net result is that production has plummetted. except in france, where they kept the old system.
As with all subsidies, it ends up in the wrong hands, as millionaires have bought the entitlements up and are coining it.
It haS also tripled the land price, as farmers no longer need to invest in fert or fences to earn, they are buying land.
The net result is a big drop in livestock numbers and also farmers.
Landlords are evicting anyone they can, so they can grab the next cash windfall.

[jdepape]

Correction...
The average net rate the grain companies pay is
just north of $6.00/tonne below the single car
rate.

Point is farmers are getting the majority of the
incentives for loading 50 and 100 car blocks.

[Braveheart]

It's obvious to me that Bruce Johnstone is little more than a political pawn.

Johnstone lists as his title,financial editor, yet fails to recognize the CWB issue is a business issue. He has fallen hook, line and sinker for the lefts' fear mongering tactics re producer cars.

This has tarnished his reputation as a journalist, if indeed Johnstone ever qualified. A journalist would have checked the Canada Grain Act to see what rules, since the Sintaluta case, apply to producer cars.

A serious journalist would have asked producer car loading site partners if it was a wise investment to sink thousands of dollars into an investment where your terminal, a terminal like Mission Terminals, can only operate with the CWB entrenched.

A serious journalist would have asked other terminal operators if they would accept producer cars from farmers.

It takes alot more than a measly producer car loading site to sustain a community. The curtain was going to come down on hundreds of communities when the rail system started rationalizing back in the 1960's. Most of them today are thriving today and some are in fact growing. Johnstone could have researched that instead of taking the word of some doom and gloom leftists.

Chuckchuck and Prairiefire seem to think that the words of Bruce Johnstone are somehow tablets of truth delivered from the mount. They are, however, little more than unresearched dribble from a lazy writer. Not a journalist.

[bucket]

Why do pro board people never answer questions?

Why do farmers that load producer cars not share or pool their savings with the rest of us?

ANYONE care to answer that?

Is it because they want the fruits of their labour for themselves?MMMMMMMMMM.

Interesting concept.

[silverback]

I don't know bucket, but God is it annoying.

They cannot answer because they have no answers. Just go on to the next inane comment and ignore reality, thought, facts, reason, etc...

[Prairiefire]

depape how are things at ICE ?

[jdepape]

Why ask me?
Are you like the guy who wrote into the Star
Pheonix saying I was a broker working for the
commodity exchange?

If so, just to get you current, I left the commodity
exchange in 1997. (I never worked for ICE).

How is this relevant to this thread?

No reply to my response to your questions?