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[chuckChuck]

What amazes me is all the farmers who vote for free markets and smaller government while at the same time accepting subsidies all the time and bailouts when times are tough.

Most of the subsidies go to the largest farms and end up helping them get larger. In the end alot of the subsidies are designed to benefit the input suppliers and machinery dealers.

I am not sure why taxpayers should be supporting farmers and indirectly input suppliers.

[silverback]

What amazes me is anyone who would vote for and ferociously advocate for more and more government and bureaucrat control over their lives. The desire to control as much of the lives of their neighbors as possible seems to be some sort of sickness to me.

[silverback]

A subsidy to input suppliers hey chuck?

We are busy having to replace some floors on these old bins in the heat.

Tell us what our countryside would look like if we didn't have to have miniature terminals on every farm site to hold our grain for at least a year at a time? Why is it that our american cousins don't have this bin building issue?

I believe the cwb is responsible for sucking huge amounts of money out of our farm returns that have gone to building free storage for them. imho.

[Fransisco]

Okay, lets flip that around then.

What amazes me is all of the farmers who vote left and live right.

Paying the vast majority of their bills from things they successfully sell in an open market rather than from subsidy checks.

[Fransisco]

Well Mr. Johnstone perhaps it is you who is wrong.

When I look at the latest CWB producer survey here...

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/surveys/producer/pdf/survey_062911.pdf

particularly page 18 and 21 it looks like a healthy majority of farmers are in favour of something other than the single desk.

Speaking of being afraid.

The question you should be asking is, if the board is half as popular with farmers and half as good a marketer as you think it is, why is it so afraid of a little competition? The question of course answers itself.

[silverback]

So the most important thing to him is the preservation of the cwb and not freedom of association hey?

Freedom to choose is a lot different than voting to keep your neighbors at gunpoint.

Idiot.

[checking]

Oh! wood chuckchuck. If that is all that is bothering you, then I will gladly wean myself off government subsidies since I don't know what that milk tastes like.

Now, will you give it a rest, and support my wish to sell my durum on the open free world market away from the handcuffs of the CWB?

[hedgehog]

chuck, since 2005, when production subsidies stopped in europe, the cost of all foodstuffs has rocketed in price. Consumers are now realising what they were told along, that it was them who were subsidised by farm payments, not the farmers who got them . Subsidies = cheap food surpluses

[Jfreedom]

Don't be to hard on Bruce people after all it's him
that has endure the hemorrhoids from having
Olbergs arm up there pulling the strings .

[freewheat]

Subsidies, chuck? What are you an american or German. What subsidy do the big guys get us little guys do not?

[Burbert]

Name calling, name calling, old conservative trick, to change the subject. Somebody starts telling things like they are, we'd better distract him, roid, farts, pinko, commies, socialists be gone and beware of us knowitall desenters, legends in our own minds. Cause we gotta a PC at home and know how to use it. Look out world I'm gonna sell my grain everywhere, everywhere, anybody know the exchange rate for rubles, yen or rials today? Gotta hire a truck, and some shovellers, then hire a boat and haul my grain to Chine myself, to heck wit eryone else!!!!!

[grassfarmer]

Aw, come on Hedgehog that's not quite accurate is it? When production based subsidies stopped you mean. When they were converted to a single farm payment that gives you almost exactly what you got before in a different form. A subsidsy free Europe will never happen.

[Jfreedom]

I'm glad you finally cleared something up for me
Burpfart you are a conservative comrade . If
name calling is a requirement for that you must
be Harper undercover .If must be frustrating for
you to come up with that many big words for your
latest Rant of pigeon blither.It makes me LOL
when ever a supporter runs out of arguments
they resort to the you'll have to travel the world
and get screwed by everyone in it without the
CWB . Farming for profit is not a crime like you
would have a lot of people believe. Oh and if
your still thinking you will need a boat to move
your crop I heard olberg and stewie will have one
to rent out soon .

[TOM4CWB]

Chuckchuck,

One thing PM Harper has NOT been afraid of... IS HARD WORK.

There were no short cuts... no 'single desk' monopolies to protect PM Harper.

The Competition Librano's NDP and Bloc pulled absolutely everything out of that magician's hat... including the kitchen sink... (thier claimed 'contempt of parliament'...)

Guess what Chuckchuck... The Canadian people did not buy the 'fluff'.

Chairman Oberg... and his 7 buddies are 100 percent 'fluff'. A total waste of money and time. They refuse to play by the rules they set out... in the CWB Corporation 'Code of COnduct and conflict of interest'.for Directors.

THe Surveys clearly and consistantly prove Minister Ritz... and PM Harper totally right to remove the 'single desk'... and you know it Chuckchuck.

The CWB Board took the BIG gamble... that PMHarper and the COnservative MP's in western Canada would lose power.

The CWB BIG GAMBLE was betting on the wrong political horses... 100 percent wrong.

The Liberals and Bloc are all but gone. The NDP is based out of Quebec now... instead of western Canada.

Bluffing with PM Harper has been tried before. You now see the results of your flawed and dishonest information program to smear hard working constructive leaders who intend on building a better Canada.

Cheers!

God Bless Canada.

[malleefarmer]

exactly grassfarmer was in europe for a month last year entirely on farms and payments are alive and well in one form or another,switzerland one can only say wow.

A grower in germany told me that price of grain is almost irrelavant in his operation.