Pooling can work if you want it

[jdepape]

Brenda:
I don't disagree with your comments that a pool
does not require govt involvement. But, two
things:

1. Pools like the Viterra bean pool already have
government involvement with government
guarantees on their initial payments. Ontario
wheat board too.

2. What I am suggesting is that whatever the
Feds think they need to do for the CWB, they
should not restrict it to just the CWB. There is
nothing magic about the CWB once the act is
gone and what remains should not be treated
any better than any other competing entity. If the
government guarantees are to be extended for a
period, then they should be available to others as
well.

If the Feds favour the CWB shell, even for an
interim period, then they haven't gone far
enough, IMHO.

The antithesis of a monopoly is competition - so
why stop at one pool provider.

[malleefarmer]

September/October
Pools vary from express pools closed in jan and finalized in sept of same calender year.
Others take 18mnths plus and everything in between

You can store grain and run your own pool if you wish some go down that path.

Seems to me standard procedure if a farmer has top quality wheat ie hard 13% we call it or australian prime hard you take cash until domestic market of flour millers is full then the remaining wheat is usually pooled.

Some specialty noodle wheats are pooled for souith east asian market and rest of the wheatmy guess is 20 to 30% pooled 30 sold for cash just prior to,during or after harvest another 10/20% sold early in season before crop is planted ie foward selling cash for cash price in feb to april for sale in nov/dec and the remainder of the wheat is sold well post harvest ie may june july year after harvest.

Cargills who may have never run a pool inthe whole bussiness life are very aggressive with there pool options now they have merged with AWB.

Alot of piss and wind about the cargill awb deal but now its done and dusted most think it kinda exciting especially all other pool operators have to pull up there socks and compete more.

Shit i think i just said a swear word "compete/competition" its not in the canadian dictionary

[wilagro]

I can't imagine an independent CWB without pooling. That was the main tool for the original "POOLS" to bring fairness to the producer in what he received for his grain.

Oberg is just being stubborn and it won't do him any good if he precedes along this course. Even his supporters will turn on him on this one.

The "POOLS" will most likely have a different form but they could still work quite well. With the computerized modern systems we have now it should be a snap really.

[btjadenlepp]

hey wilagro, some stranger seems to be
posting under your handle. did you just
agree with us?

just kidding. i appreciate your comment
and totally agree.

[charliep]

I suspect the main challenge in any pooling system will be to get delivery commitment from farmers. Providing them with a value proposition that will encourage them to sign tonnage contracts and provide whoever runs the pooling system security they can go out and make sales. The same problems exist today as highlighted by the CWB requests to get high quality durum and upper grade/protein wheat in the system to satisfy Japanese business.

I note malleefarmer comments over time in the level of creativity and innovation in Australia to make this happen. Our issue is we are moving from a one size fits all pooling system based on a 15 to 18 month sales period to something completely different.

A CWB that can retain farmer loyalty will be a powerfull force in the new world. Loyalty equals tonnes contracted.