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    Oberg leading the CWB over a cliff.

    After reading Mr Obergs Blog (posted below my comments) and hearing his endorsement of the Friend of the CWB's Song, I can't help but think the CWB under this leadership is going nowhere fast.

    I have always believed there can be a roll for the CWB in a dual Market, but the people in charge seem determined to burn every bridge and and destroy any chance of a future for the CWB.

    They have pretty much demonized all the Grain Companies, Railroads and anyone that does not share their view. Hummm.. regardless what the CWB looks like in the future, they need to work with all the people it is insulting right now.

    Your Mr. Oberg you can't survive if the CWB looses the single desk. Under real leadership it could have!



    Oberg's Blog

    Tuesday, August 9, 2011Who’s playing what?


    Several weeks ago, the Minister of Agriculture advised elected directors of the CWB to “quit playing silly buggers” and get around to planning how the CWB could be “strong and viable” in an open market. He rejected our request that the government hold a plebiscite on its decision to unilaterally strip our single desk for both wheat and barley, stating he wanted to move quickly ahead on the file and take his political lumps on the issue, as it were, early.


    Since then, we’ve heard very little from the Minister. I arrived in Regina yesterday for our first of several meetings with farmers (great meeting, great discussion. Check out coverage here http://www.globalregina.com/meets with farmers talk about board fate/5224873/story.html ).


    While I was in Regina, I tuned into Jim Smalley’s noon show on CKRM (www.620ckrm.com) and had the opportunity to hear a bit more from the Minister, who talked to callers on different issues but mostly fielded calls on the CWB. I found it a little disheartening that he offered, as proof that removing the single desk will improve things for farmers, assurances from the railways and grain companies.


    In response to a question from someone concerned about access to services for smaller farmers if the CWB is gone, the Minister acknowledged there are arguments both ways on the question, but said the grain companies and railways have told him things will work better without the CWB.


    Hmmm. The grain companies and the railways say things will be better, so therefore things will be better? I have to be honest – I think this is letting the fox watch the hen house and pretending it’s public policy.


    And in response to a question on where farmers will order producer cars if there is no CWB, the Minister noted the Canadian Grain Commission delivers producer cars, and said if anything, in a post-single desk environment, there will be greater demand for producer cars.


    Given that the CGC is the federal agency responsible for ordering producer cars, I’d like to see their analysis on how demand will increase in an open market. I’m especially curious given that today, over 95 per cent of producer cars are loaded with CWB grains. Loading producer cars saves farmers money – up to $1600 per car in reduced elevation and handling charges. These savings will disappear in an open market. Producer cars are available on canola shipments, but few farmers use them because they don’t generate any savings. So I can’t see how demand for producer cars will increase in an open market, but I would welcome the Minister or one of his officials explaining it to me.


    I might even suggest the Minister stop playing politics with our bottom line. Maybe it is time to move beyond the sound bites and start listening to farmers – all farmers, including those who have different views – instead of just the grain companies and railways.


    In the meantime, I’d like to hear from as many of you as possible at the farmer meetings we’re holding across the Prairies this week and next – we’re at the Saskatoon Inn at 7 p.m. tonight, for example. (You can find the complete list here: http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/hot/decision/meetings/)

    #2
    sorry My closing line should have read.

    Your right Mr. Oberg you can't survive if the CWB looses the single desk. Under real leadership it could have!

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      #3
      JHC now our wheat customers get paid out because we are dissmantling our CWB. Great just great.

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        #4
        Oberg said, "start listening to farmers-all farmers,including those who have different views-". WTF?! Pot calling kettle black or what? If the the wheat board had ever done that they wouldn't be at this point today.

        Oberg, it's over. Move on. The fat lady sang. No encore.

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          #5
          The CWB has long term contracts to give away wheat at bargain basement prices. These contracts should be given the pink slip along with the employees. Hey nobody gives me severence. Maybe the audit will find out lots of kickbacks and irregularitys

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            #6
            The government should be starting a full financial
            audit immediately. Since there has never been
            one done, the auditors may have a quite a few
            questions.

            If no light has ever been shed in some corners,
            who knows what might scurry out when an
            auditor comes around.

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              #7
              The CWB has taught the Conservatives well. This is a
              black and white issue, no middle ground. Listen to
              your friends and ignore everyone else. Don't listen to
              your members just tell them what's good for them.
              Bash all your enemies and then tell them they are
              unreasonable. Is it surprising we are in the position
              we are in today.

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                #8
                With any luck at all when the auditors are crunching the shut down numbers, maybe they will stumble across a couple of points of interest.

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                  #9
                  Craig you are absolutely right. Annoy and alienate your future business partners and then wonder why they are not keen in working with you in the future?
                  It is indeed a strange business case these 8 single desk directors are making!

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                    #10
                    It was oil for food that brought down
                    the AWB. Tax evasion took down Al
                    Capone. Sponsor gate took down the
                    Liberals.... John Gormleys Canadian
                    best selling book "Left Out"
                    Saskatchewan s NDP and the relentless
                    pursuit of Mediocrity.

                    Had a great chapter on NDP
                    mismanagement and the culture of cover
                    ups. I hope there's nothing in the CWB.

                    Of course the Government is going to get
                    some outside help to verify the CWB
                    numbers regarding the wind-up costs.  
                    Only makes sense.   They are certainly
                    not going to simply accept the CWB’s
                    word on this.
                     
                    Oberg is trying to make hay out of this,
                    but I don’t think his argument is going
                    to wash.   I’m sure there’s going to be
                    costs involved in winding up the long-
                    gun registry too.   That’s hardly a
                    reason for not going ahead with the
                    change in policy.

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                      #11
                      Craig et al,

                      It is truly sad that Chairman Oberg and his buddies will not allow those who do want to work together to put together a new marketing partner.

                      The principal of a voluntary co-operative marketer... working for growers... is widespread and working well in western Canada now.

                      Why not have Federated Coop make a bid to run the CWB corporation in the new environment?

                      Or our Credit Unions that are Cooperatives... or even CHS Inc. from the US. I am very disappointed that none of these alternatives have been discussed... let alone good business plans that growers could vote upon which one they think would serve their needs the BEST.

                      3 good sound NEW marketing business alternatives SHOULD have been what this Plebicite was about.

                      CWB Chairman Oberg has really missed the bus... so to speak... this time.

                      A Pitty.

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                        #12
                        Some comments I made about CWB 2 that are appropriate here. In my mind these are the types of things The CWB Directors should be looking at Instead of Unite the Left Rallies!

                        I wish the Board of Directors of our organization (although it seems it more some than others) needs to start looking at the future.

                        The CWB as it is today is run its course and its time to move on. I am really getting tired of the Mr. Oberg and his propaganda machine spending our money. Who is footing the bill for the other side of the argument?

                        There are many important issues that need to be addressed, and I am wondering who is working on them? For instance who is looking at Transportation Issues, Inventory Financing for Terminals, Contracts and Cash advances, and maintaining customer relationships through the transition. What will the new organization look like?

                        The plebiscite that is out there is a joke. We know that when the ballot goes to every Tom, Dick and Harry that ever had a Permit book, the results will be skewed and do not show the will of many of the actual producers of Wheat and Barley.

                        Lets look at the problems that we face immediately in a change in the CWB.

                        Transportation - One common concern and one shared by me would be access of Grain Transportation to all areas and companies. The current Car allocation system, gives the CWB control over many cars that they try to distribute fairly. Instead of looking at this as a problem, maybe it is an opportunity to fix our transportation system. Some ideas that would go a long way towards to ensuring equal service opportunity would be opening up the rail running rights. Let the CWB II Transportation arm control the Cars the Farmers and the Government own. CWB II could be very key in a new Rail Allocation System.

                        Cash advances; there is no reason that CWB II Finance could not operate a Bank where producers could deposit Money into an account that makes a little better than Bank interest. Other services they could offer would be Cash advances or operating lines, to Grain Co's and Farmers. Would need seed money from Government, and if 50000 farmers had on Average of $5000 on deposit with them that’s $250000000 they could put to work. Of Course it wouldn't be interest free, but it could be low interest.

                        Grain Inventory Financing, a major concern is Grain Inventory Financing for Grain Terminals. Solution, more Condo Storage units, Companies can sell some of there storage to Farmers and Even the CWB Marketing Arm. Why Couldn’t CWB II buy or Lease space from Grain Companies to help them do business in the future? There is no way that most of the Grain Companies could finance their own inventories, and as a result have extra Capacity. For Example In Weyburn alone if the Terminal Capacity was full it would take more than 50 million to Finance the Inventory. Why would some of these companies not Lease some Storage to CWB II and establish a throughput agreement.

                        Pooling, despite Mr. Oberg's comments this is very doable for farmers that want that sort of thing. Producers would have to commit acres ahead of time and sign auditable contracts. Hell they could do it for all Grains not just Wheat and Barley.

                        Existing contracts, if they really cared about this they would have had it solved or still could. A like John Depape mentioned it’s outside the CWB Mandate to sell what would be 2012 crop. And this year’s pool should be a tonnage and grade commitment to be in the pool otherwise your work off the PPO’s, which would reduce the risk of making an uncovered contract.

                        Enough verbal vomit from me, I’m sure I have exposed myself to major picking apart, (especially grammatically) and believe me the above suggestions are not deeply thought out but just thrown out there. My point is its time to start looking at solutions. I want Market choice but I also think there are many talented people at the CWB and they are doing many good things, and I believe there can be a role for them in the future. I urge them to start thinking outside the box and looking forward.

                        Message to Mr. Ritz its time to be absolutely clear, and stop all this nonsense. If members of the current Board are struggling with change accept their resignations and move forward with some vision.

                        What are your thoughts on how CWB II could look?

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                          #13
                          Blame the the CWB for its own demise when the Cons have given no indication of what level of support they will offer?

                          The CWB has no grain handling facilities, no retained earnings, no capital, must contract with competitors, and no guarantee of supply.

                          If you think that is makings of a successful grain company, then you are living in a fantasy land or you know very little about business!

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                            #14
                            Ritz has men inside the BOD. Does he not take thier word? Why are they so quiet to the public?

                            He is taking the railroad and grain co's word that things will be better without the board. Is he having an audit on thier word?

                            I'm not saying your wrong but I have herd the CWB's side lets here how the rail is going to be better. How is the grain Co's going to be better for farmers?

                            Not second hand propaganda but right from thier BOD's.

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                              #15
                              wmoebis,

                              The 8 think alike CWB directors rule the CWB.

                              15 total Directors. Chairman Oberg is the only one allowed to speak for these 8 on the CWB who rule the roost pubically.

                              Corporate governance rules and protocol have tied the hands of the 7 Marketing Choice advocates who have no choice... pubically... but to remain silent.

                              It is perhaps helpful... that Chairman Oberg is now clearly indicating just how little he understands about running a multi $B Co... and working in the real world where those responsible pay... when they make a mess of things!

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