Oberg leading the CWB over a cliff.

[mbratrud]

Agstar,

Ritz has never talked to them to see what they do? Come on lets try and be a little truthful... There are people willing to compromise but there are some that are not willing to bend at all. Have to have single desk or can’t survive? That’s like Home Depot saying the only way it can survive is it controls the lumber trade in Canada. It just sounds so utterly ridicules and is a pathetic argument.

Right or wrong if the Board of Directors believe they can turn this around they are sadly mistaken. The Barley fiasco of a couple years ago was extremely embarrassing to Harper. That will not happen again; they campaigned on doing away with the single desk, not the CWB. They will not change their mind. If Oberg and the Board of Directors truly care about the lively hood of the people that work for the CWB they had better start thinking about how they fit in an open Market after Aug 1 2012 or they will have no one to blame but themselves for the downfall.

The Conservatives have absolutly nothing to gain and everything to loose if they change their mind. The people that are against them didnt vote for them anyway. And not one Conservative that is not a farmer would think a socialist entity controlling farmers sales of grain would be a good idea.

AGSTAR. Answer this question please with out any other crap verbal garb just answer the question. Why should I as a Wheat and Barley Producer with grain trading experience as much or more as the people at the sales desk at the CWB should I not be able to choose Where and When I sell my Wheat and Barley the same way as I sell my Canola, Lentils, Peas, Flax and Canaryseed?

[parsley]

Agstar, read what you say:

"He has no interest in the survival of any type of marketing agency run by farmers."

The CWB is not run by farmers.

It's a government run institution. If it was run by farmers and owned by farmers, the government wouldn't be able to shut it down.

Pars

[Braveheart]

Tom, most of me wants Oberg to continue his ways. Let the CWB sink.

We had respect for those who wanted to use a non profit marketer by promoting the dual market or voluntary wheat board idea. It could have worked. But the socialists want us all to march to the beat of their drum. So, forget it. Let it go. Wind it down. Give them the same severence as the 500 who lost their jobs in 1943 got.

Just imagine a world where the left wing media wouldn't be able to bemoan the CWB at every turn. Where neo political dribble that passes for CWB news releases isn't a weekly event.

Please Oberg, play your flute. Lead the spellbound rats over the cliff.

[Braveheart]

Sorry about that. Wrong button.

[wmoebis]

You are likely right Tom. But what about the railroads and the grain companies? I don't think they are under a gag order.

I would like to hear, in a "public meeting" such as the CWB did, what they have been telling the Gov't how they will make it better under an open system. Farmers should be the ones hearing first hand how it will improve, Not the gov't. It is our lively hood not thiers.

I went to the CWB meeting and would also go to RR and every grain co's meeting. Public info from BOD from both sides is good. So far we have a one sided debate and a bunch of propaganda.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77,

"Ritz will be remembered for only one thing, the americanization of grain marketing in Canada."

You are SIMPLY wrong.

Minister Goodale tried to 'Save' the Mb. Sk. Ab. Pools in the 1990's.

These Liberals FAILED to implement the Western Grain Marketing Panel Report. Minister Ritz had NOTHING to do with the end of SWP... UGG... Agricore United...

A transition that allowed Federated Cooperatives... or another global Cooperative needed to be the objective of Minister Goodales 1998 CWB reforms.

The Permit Books system that the CWB and Goodale kept... was simply self serving and failed to provide the commercial attributes needed to install leaders with a lasting and accountable future.

Minister Ritz gave very GOOD advice when he told the CWB NOT to buy the two Ships.

Chairman Oberg has been responsible for 'the americanization of grain marketing in Canada" if that is at all what has happened. AS have you Agstar77.

It is always handy to blame someone else for your failures.

The song that Oberg endorses cussing those out that don't agree with the 'single buying desk'... shows how shallow CWB managers are.


Chairman Oberg and the other socialist CWB leaders have had their way... crashing the CWB... a Corporation that is now: offensive, economically unaccountable, NOT commercial nor a responsible sustainable business model.

All CWB managers should hang their heads in shame... Agstar77... instead of blaming Minister Ritz.

[agstar77]

Those savvy marketers are not as smart as they think they are! Total net returns are better under the current system than they will be under the open market system. There will be winners under the new system but also more net losers. Perhaps if you are in favor of the law of the jungle , all is good. However if you look at the bigger picture, agriculture will not be better off. Whether marketing choice is a good trade off for surrender of market control, only time will tell.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77:

"Those savvy marketers are not as smart as they think they are!"

HOW true. Think about it. Who claims to 'Market' our grain for a 'Premium'.

Go take a good long look in the mirror... Agstar77.

Growers need to be respnsible for their OWN marketing decisions... saying we are irresponsible and you must control us... just shows how arrogant and selfish your socialist 'superman' business model is.

[newguy]

If I screw up. Lesson learned. If I pay someone and they screw up. Someone gets fired.

[silverback]

How in the hell would you know there will be "more net losers"? Got some proof of that?

I would sure like to see an american style grain system where each farm gets to decide who can purchase their grain, that would be great.

Why do you lefty's think assigning the word american in front of anything helps your arguments? I am in need of radical knee surgery. If I lived in america it would have been worked on two years ago. That would sure have sucked. Not canada though, it doesn't "hurt enough" - yet.