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    #46
    Agstar77,

    The CWB has LESS market power than Viterra... with even with the power of the 'single buying desk'. As the CWB plays footsie with the big 'C'. You folks are funny!!!

    This CWB can no more global control of where wheat or barley grain prices move than it can stop the moon from moving around the earth.

    Like the CWB can control the weather and economic markets... let alone political decisions in any country!!!

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      #47
      Tom "Growers need to be responsible for their OWN marketing decisions... "

      Truer words cannot be spoken.

      Although we can make some forms of marketing decisions within the board, we are still at their mercy with regards to wheat and barley. Give back marketing choice to farmers and entrepreneurs and we will control our own destiny, not some govt bureaucrat in Winnipeg.

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        #48
        The appointed directors work in the government's best interest. The CEO works to meet payroll and staffing probs and meet goals and deadlines. The elected directors supposedly work on behalf of farmers.

        And thus they should report directly to farmers. And speak to them. And account to them.

        The CWB has a hybrid makeup. Not the same as a private corp.Please note there is a difference. Pars

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          #49
          Most of the arguments blaming the CWB for its own demise are so stupid they are hardly worth commenting on.

          The grain trade will go on without the CWB. Thanks to the Cons, they will hand it over to big multinational players who will continue to consolidate and diminish market option wherever possible, so that they can maximize returns at every opportunity.

          The sooner we have super large centrally controlled corporate farms the better. They are alot more efficient and can make better market deals. That way our sons and daughters will have good jobs with dental and pension programs.

          In a total free and globalized market which many of you good folks support, there would be no government restrictions on the movment of goods, capital, or people.

          In a free market of goods and people we can bring in Mexican workers to operate the equipment for a lot less.

          Perhaps we should remove all the restrictions on foreign ownership of farmland. The Saudis and the Chinese would love to own most of the Prairies. And they would do a fine job of farming.

          Let us give it all away to highest bidder because greed is good and that is the way the world works! Right!

          Don't worry about your neighbor. There are lots of jobs in the oil patch unfilled.

          Your kids will find good jobs. They may need to get a Phd to compete with the kids from India and China but they will find a way. Tim Hortons is always looking for able hands.

          Let the market decide everything. There is no other way. Greed is good. The more I have for myself, the happier I will be.

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            #50
            A great example of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma"]the false dilemma. [/URL]

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              #51
              Francisco: No more a "false dilemma" than you 'freedom fighters' and your "prices will go up" baloney after the single desk is dumped.

              I would be very surprised that the price of wheat will miraculously rise because of a single cause as in the marketing of "free" wheat. Wishful thinking at best but no basis in fact.

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                #52
                Its called arbitrage[URL=" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage"]arbitrage[/URL] willy.

                Yes, yes, we all know that monos don't believe in arbitrage, or in any of the prices quoted outside the designated area. The only thing to be believed is what comes out of the mouths of the ever wise, all knowing, all seeing, prophets from 423 mainstreet who can't ever possibly wrong because they back up every word with the unassailable argument, "just trust us".

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                  #53
                  And the argument is not so much that the price will go up, as it is that we will finally get the chance to be paid the same amount as everyone else, rather than at the discount price we get from the Board.

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                    #54
                    Sorry Agtsar, You have no proof that the current system's net returns are better, and honestly we have no proof either that the new system will bring better returns either. However if I compare wheat prices around the world on average to ours, I am pretty sure that IF and big IF we get a premium in Canada it is a very small and just about non existent one. And I also know that the time I have had to wait for that premium of the inconveniences I had to endure to get this premium have cost me more than the illusionary premium. It is not just about total net return, the flexibility to manage ones business is quite invaluable and I know the PPOs have not provided this.

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