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    #13
    What you guys are talking about is old hack. What Jeff talked about is old hack, he needed to take the next step in this game. If Jeff needed to get his message out (and not resign) he should of started requesting private meetings with Ritz the real Boss of this circus, what he has done is neutralized himself at the board table, -remember democray-, just another guy talking it up. Oberg and THE RATS will chew him up at the table for the next two months.

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      #14
      We are going to take advantage of Comedian
      farmers! Quote from grain companies,
      railroads, brokers and other interested
      parties. That said, who really gives a
      f@#k? The whole thing is based in
      bullskat anyway!

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        #15
        The grain companies, railroads, governments and the chemical companies will rip the farmer off the same as ever. Without the CWB there will be quite a bit of uncertainty as they were an information source as well as a marketer Farmers will have to be more informed through computer-based information sources for up-to-date info. Reading the monthly farm magazines wont do in this new faster age that we live in.

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          #16
          woemis....I don't care how the CWB will act after August 2012. If you want it, design it and use it. I don't want to use it so why should I put together a plan for you. You've (through CWB) been making all my wheat & barley decisions for my 30 years of farming so keep on making the decisions.....just don't count on my wheat or barley.

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            #17
            Will note that both Henry and Jeff were elected to do a job. The expectations of what they have been asked to do is highlighted in the CWB annual producer survey. Governance rules also impact them.

            I note the following under the code of ethics under II Principles

            D. The views and concerns of western Canadian wheat and barley farmers are an important element in Board decision-making and each director has a responsibility to ensure those views and concerns are brought forward to the entire Board.

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              #18
              There is more than Jeff at the CWB board of director table. Suspect discussions will be interesting these days. To create a different environment would require one or two of the 8 single desk directors to shift thinking. The discussion around the board of director table and decision making are critical as we move ahead.

              My sense (could be wrong) is the operations side is a lot more ready for change than the B. of D. It would be extremely interesting to find out the imformation/alternatives the operations side presented the board of directors. It could be the current debate is really about money and continued regulation supporting the CWB in a different environment.

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                #19
                I've dealt with this kind of thing before and it's never clear cut. My personal rule is that if a director makes staff uncomfortable or they feel threatened then it's clear, he must go. If a director leaks proprietary info then he must go.

                But in this case there are no secrets. Everyone knows well the divisions on the CWB board. To set the record straight as to the meetings being hijacked, I think is appropriate.

                As much as I appreciate Jeff speaking up now, he could have rose at the meeting on a point of order to put things in perspective there. The media storm if he had would have been phenomenal.

                Resign now, NO. Speak more now, YES.

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                  #20
                  Try your policy by subsitution, brave:Try this: if a MINISTER "makes staff uncomfortable or they feel threatened then it's clear, he must go"?

                  Good to go with that?

                  How about if a MINISTER "makes directors uncomfortable or they feel threatened then it's clear, he must go"

                  Have you ever told a Minister "NO!" You do not understand the meaning of critical forthrightness if you have not done so, if you are an experienced director.It's not about being a nice little go-along. It's about issues.

                  Obviously the Alberta caucus did little more than sniff away the property rights issues when they floated by them like a fart in the night.

                  Do this: replace MINISTER with CEO?

                  Discomfort comes with the territory unless you want to be an agreeable can of lard sitting in a Direcors chair. Silence at all costs is never an option. Pars

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                    #21
                    Why aren't yous screaming at the gobermont
                    appointed directors tooo. After all, they
                    are in fact actually spies, hacks, cronies
                    trying to collapse the cwb from the
                    inside. I guess yous on Angriville
                    actually LOVE those appointees, cousin
                    theys your people on the scene, tryin to
                    destroy their own positions. Very
                    patriotic fellows indeed........... Theys
                    reporting to RITZ each and ever day...

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                      #22
                      Pars, I have actually told a minister "No". Ralph Goodale was so shocked by it he put a cigarette in his mouth backwards and tried to light it. Those filter tips don't light up easy.

                      As far as the CWB B OF D is concerned, the Minister is within bounds giving direction whether it makes people uneasy, threatened, or whatever. The difference is he's challenging their beliefs. My director was anti-female. He didn't like confident, powerful women. As a director he was essentially their boss and would use that position to question the quality of their work.

                      Leaking secrets is wrong. Whistle-blowing criminal activity is right. Jeff Nielsen was right. Allen Oberg was and is wrong. Is Oberg a criminal? He's stealing our money for his purposes.

                      I still think the CWB should be investigated for racketeering with Mission Terminals/Adrian Measner.

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