Alberta passes draconian laws abolishing property rights

[malta]

Over the past 6 weeks after purchasing the right to vote for a PC leader I have sent three seperate enquiries to all of the leadership candidates asking if they will repeal these laws.
You guessed it no a single reply. Not even from Orman, the only one who could legitamately claim he wasn't part of this. This group are very comfortable concentrating power, including the power of confiscation, behind the closed doors of the cabinet room. Time to throw them out.

[wd9]

Crop life is not saying the whole world, just the world that can afford to grow biotech crops. They don't really care what happens with the production after its grown just as long as their technology is bought, and bought every year.

Its the same reason every 6 year old needs an iphone. Good marketing.

[stubblejumper]

life's a bitch when you have to form a new PC party because you don't see eye to eye with the old one.

[TOM4CWB]

SJ,

Better to be a part of the solution... than the problem.

[ASRG]

People are waking up to just how far this government has gone with the "land grab bills"! All of these bills have a common denominator, which is the elimination of "the rule of law". Some people (Ted Morton) believe elected representatives should be above the law and make decisions that (supposedly) benifit society, rather than have a set of hard and fast rules! Unfortunately human nature dictates that the "Crown" representatives have a nasty habit of failing miserably to live up to their high ideals!
Take one example: Bill 24 (The Carbon Capture and Storage Statutes Amendment Act),"vested" (read that as confiscated) your real property without compensation or due process of law. It was done in less tha 30 days using closure to ram it through the legislature! This was a totally sleezy piece of legislation that also sets a precedent for future expropriation of free hold mineral rights. The government took your property and now rents it out for C02 sequestration (at the rate of about $800/quarter/year), but there is nothing in the legislation that limits that storage under your land to C02! It could very well be toxic waste or nuclear waste....you don't own it anymore!
Bill 24 has further implications in that it pretty well stops, forever, any compensation you might expect to recieve for horizontal drilling under your land? This is important because the Alberta government is about to change all the rules regarding well spacing? The new norm will be every foot of space under your land will become a pay zone, through horizontal well bores and hydro fracking every ten meters down that horizontal well bore!
Bill 24, opens the door to all kinds of sleazy deals (crony capitalism) as is already happening with the North West Upgrader and the Enhance Energy C02 trunkline! Billions handed over to the PC parties pals!....if you ever want to see just how honest and fair the "Crown" will be, without the rule of law.....just take a look at those two little gems!
The Wildrose has stated very clearly ,the first priority, when they form the government, will be to rescind all four of the land grab bills and legislate a "property protective act". This piece of legislation, in all likelyhood, will be similar to the proposed draft written by APRI (Alberta Property Rights Initiative). Danielle Smith was the president of APRI when this draft was written.
The Wildrose understands just how bad these four bills are in relation to property rights....and in fact our basic human rights! The PC government is trying to move our basic rights back to a time before the Magna Carta! We need to stop them now before we slip back into slavery!

[chuckChuck]

Crop life is just PR on behalf of chemical and seed industry.

If food production continues on its path of high fossil energy input and the depletion of Phosphorous fertilizers we are in big trouble in the long term.

All the BS about feeding the world with biotechnology is just crap. Good technology will play a role. But hunger isn't caused by a supply issue. There is currently enough food in the world. Apparently we have a big enough land and food surplus to use it to make ethanol and bio-diesel.

The issue is poverty. Try feeding your family on $1 per day. If there was political will we could solve the hunger issue. But poor Africans don't vote in the election of rich countries.

Many of the worlds poorest are small scale farmers who feed themselves. They need good varieties that they can save the seed from without being thrown in jail.

The UN Food and Agriculture Organization published a report a few years ago that recommended that farmers in developing countries can increase yields by adopting, sustainable lower input methods and agronomy. Expecting very poor farmers to purchase expensive seeds and technology is foolish.

Small diverse farms with livestock, good crop rotations, and improved agronomy using lower input methods will increase production from where it is now.

Monsanto and company are not interested in small scale poor farmers because they can't make money from them.

[Braveheart]

High winds this week damaged some canola swaths. Some east/west swaths rolled up north/south swaths disloged and spread around.

Airplane and later broadcast canola 2-3 weeks from swathing. Need a miracle.

Spring wheat just getting going with reported yields from 18- 65 bus/ac.

[hobbyfrmr]

Crop life is not saying the whole world, just the world that can afford to grow biotech crops. They don't really care what happens with the production after its grown just as long as their technology is bought, and bought every year.

I agree. Crop life is the fert and chem companies "beeyotch". They are presenting a sad and twisted version of reality for the general public. It deflects away from this fact.

Monsanto and company are not interested in small scale poor farmers because they can't make money from them.

WD9 and Chuck are very smart people.

I have always carried mixed emotions with farming and starving people. My neighbor is a 50,000 acre farmer, he grows the very biggest and very best crops and is a teriffic, highly efficient farmer. He is also a decent person. There are still people starving. This guy, one farm production unit, will grow (my fast and rough math) 1.5 million bushels of oats, 875,000 bushels of canola and 750,000 bushels of wheat. There are still people starving. To fix a political disfunction with agronomics is naive at best. Thank God we do not have to run from bullets.

[tman]

Good post chuck. I get a kick out of the industry when they try to get philosophical about feeding the world. I interpret this as their way of justifying flawed production practices to the public, or to themselves. If we truly wanted to get philosophical and talk about feeding the world which is very socialistic, which is the basis of true Christianity (at least from what I've heard), then we need to change. Changes including crops grown to plant breeding to North Americans NOT shoveling their faces full of food and becoming obese. Of course a lot or most of that food that is making North Americans fat is NOT food. If we actually start growing food on all of our acres instead of pseudo food then we can start talking philosophically.

But of course, that's not where this industry is at.

Now I must get back to help harvest the family's bin busting canola crop. (that was said with tongue in cheek as Adler would say).

[BTOfarmallll]

ASRG yous already a Slave, have been since the year 1913. The US of A technically has been broke since March 9, 1933. There is absolutely no way to pay back all this debt. Why????? Theys ain't print enough money too. The money never has, never will be there in The System. Why??? Money kin only come in existence with attached debt to it (Interest), Theys ain't print the money to pay fer the Interest. Where it supposed to come from then??? Biggest Pyramid Scheme in The History of Man Kind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Burbert]

Maybe ifn all of us Albertie Comedian
farmers, get together and give a loud,
audible snivel and whine, then the
policitcos will listen and witdraw the
draconian law! Yup thats what we should
all due..... Nope sorry to late, genie is
outta the bottle, the rip off of Comedian
farmers continues unabated......... eh
tommiefer. Luv those PC boys/girls don't
ya!

[FarmRanger]

...what happens when governments steer too far
to the left. Power corrupts.