harvest heads up

[sawfly]

you guys have no love for the left wing
/NFU

however sitting in a wheat pool committee years ago . one of those guys came in and foretold the future.
As far out as we thought he was.
everything he predicted has come true.
first Sask wheat pool
going from co-op to public
farmers would lose control of the business
check
then management proceeded to run it into the ground. (going global )
check
next step the demise of the wheat board
check
which would open up the industry to take over buy grain giants.
check.
now the rise of farmer owned terminals. (which had not happened yet)
which filled the vacuum left when the pools disintegrated.
farmer participation was reestablished in the handling system .

now with board gone the farmer owned inland terminal days are numbered.
a multinational takeover of viterra
(has already happened)
squeeze out , farmer terminals and special crop processors.
check

transformation complete (just as he predicted)

one or two multinationals control the entire system.
we are again peasants.

Ah but competition ,will save the day.
What competition ? elevators, ports ,
sales all in one corporations hands.
there is no competition
they offer you take.

Too late to stop it now
free from the boards tyranny.
in exchange for Cargils
woo hoo party time

[TOM4CWB]

Sawfly,

Cargil is but one of a number of marketers. Bunge has treated us VERY fairly... a good marketing partner.

Viterra has been fair in dealings with our farm... I do not understand why you demonize them.

If there are large profits to be made in the grain industry... independant grain marketers will meet the opportunities and yes there is even a place for a grower owned coop like both the US and Aussies have counted on to level the field.

Being negative is easy. Doing the right and working to fill the gap the CWB is leaving... is the challenge.

Chairman Oberg has failed us badly. We as you have correctly pointed out, knew this change was comming. The Western Grain Marketing Panel had it exactly right... 15 years ago.

And;
Goodale FAILED to implement the most important parts of the Consensus Report.

Now we pay... and the transistion that we always knew must come... the end of the 'single buying desk'... will be more difficult because the 'entitlement' folks (many who are not commercial growers and marketers) have had 15 years to grow very fond of intimidating and scolding us.

The SUN will rise on August 1, 2012!

[mbratrud]

Chuck Chuck,

Why do Grain Handlers like to focus on Board Grains? Because its their highest Margin Handle.. Why is that? Why do the Grain Companies make more money handling Wheat and Durum than Canola? In my 15 years working for Grain Co's Agricore, SWP, WIT and a Cargill JV, our focus was always CWB Grains because it paid the best. Why is that?

There is no doubt in my mind that after the CWB is done there will be first a flurry of Agribusiness investment in Canada. Mostly from multinationals that are not here in a big way yet. Then they will spend the next five years blowing their brains out competing for the business. After that period when the dust settles our grain trade will look a lot different. Good or Bad I guess we will wait and see, but one thing I feel confident it won't be any worse.

All these scare tactics from PRO CWB is starting to sound like soldiers in cities with guns... Chuck Chuck you didn't run for the libs at one time did you?

[jensend]

i think instead of blowing their brains out competing they will just buy up the competition. that's the way it's done nowadays. forget competition and innovation - invest in market power. take a look at the beef industry. two players makes for no competition.

[Hopperbin]

Wheat at 11 percent and canola at 5 here also. Canola sample not perfect clean but loaded truck has a lot of weight to it. Even plugged up the 9120 rotor 5 times before realized just had to crank up the rpms to 600, I thought it would be so brittle that I tried 450 rpm at first. so good thing did not have a John Deere may have been sitting for a while.

[Hopperbin]

This combine is so easy to drive it tells you what to do when you plug it up. No getting out of the driver's seat.

[wmoebis]

mbratrud, I've always wonderd about how the grain Co's make over and above the elevation charges and on how much they make for handling non board crops.

Could you please give us some of your figures. That would be interesting to see where and how the money is made.