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    #11
    Mallee. When no one has access to the voter's list but
    the CWB you have to be concerned. When ballots
    mailed do not match permit book holders you need to
    be concerned. To have an organization whose very
    existence hangs in the balance having full control over
    the process can only be a recipe for anything but
    democratic process. The CWB has always been about
    perception and not reality. The day farmers and only
    farmers are voting on policy is the day they might get
    my respect.

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      #12
      Some may be that the guys knew the vote would not go their way so let's say we sent our ballots to the minister, that way when we loose we'll say that is why.

      For others it was just stupidity at the highest level if they did send the ballot to Gerry, because look at how close it was if our side had won this thing would be over. But as Mallee said this is now long from over, Just heard on the radio the reporter basically saying the minister is going against democracy. This isn't about democracy deciding this, this is about individual rights, but our minister though right on the issue is right out to lunch on how it is being handled. If this keeps on being pissed around with the other side is gonna tie this up longer than some of you think. Score the first round to the supporters. Totally pissed!!!!

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        #13
        Excellent point about a voters list, craig. I don't recall hearing that point made before; but I beat you by a few minutes under a different topic.


        posted Sep 12, 2011 21:31
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        With a voters list, one could have pointed out that the ballots exceeded those entitled to vote. One could point out that deceased persons should be ineligible, duplicates should be cancelled, and other examples of how the list appearseddeliberately skewed.
        But such a tactic of a lack of a public voters list is exactly in line with the way the CWB operates. Its also why I want no part of a compulsary organization with such ideas how democracy should work.


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          #14
          First you have to correctly determine where the stupidly resides. Thats difficult when stupidity comes from every corner and direction....... Then you can count on even simple issues to be misunderstood and being made complicated by deliberate confusion so that a majority of those who participate cast their ballots based on what is best for themselves and creates most havoc for everyone else.
          When was the last time that voters looked at basic principles which might move the farming industry forward; instead of fighting to preserve entitlements which have created our present situation. As Tom might say "God help us if the CWB is the only savior for Western Canadian farming"
          More than 'nuff said.

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            #15
            Appearances can be deceiving. Mallee your comments caused me to look up my last CWB book. It was 2002-03. I still have the land but of course I didn't get a ballot for this show vote. If it meant something that would smart. Luckily it doesn't. HT

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              #16
              I agree with most everything said here.
              However, I did send in my one ballot.
              If it makes me a prosti, fine.
              I saw it as duty and a chance to shut Oberg and crew up! This entire publicity stunt has played to the media perfectly. Now I hear city people ask "why won't the government respect farmer's democracy!
              Yeah, I'm getting pissed now too.

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                #17
                Pretty easy to come up with a voters list using Tax and shareholder information. Its a joke the CWB uses otherwise.

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                  #18
                  Considering the tactics used this vote failed the
                  singledeskers miserably. A slim majority with all
                  the freedom farmers absent.

                  Even the majority of yheir ballots failed them.
                  Good luck convincing Ritz, he is smarter than
                  that!

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                    #19
                    You fellas are dreaming if you think that a vote in favor of the open market would result in the CWB just rolling over and playing dead. They will stop at nothing to save their skin. Just think about how close the barley result was....51 out of 100 people voted in favor of keeping the monopoly while 49 voted to eliminate the monopoly and the CWB does not even acknowledge that there is a problem and maybe barley should be treated differently than wheat. PS my ballet went to Ritz with a comment to keep fighting for freedom.

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                      #20
                      Of course they would not roll over but it would be one less tool to take to court or where ever this is going, besides the public sees this thing now as conservatives against democracy.

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