Malt vs Feed

[charliep]

Did you leave in the malt barley pricing pool or use a cash plus? Just curious.

[Burbert]

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, go fer malt, each
and every year. The kid (who once spent a
summer helping on his uncles grain farm in
Sask), who is now grading your grain can
always turn it inta feed, with the wave of
his magic wand and he does lottsa times.
Why would any framer in his right mind
grow FEED to sell as feed?

[Burbert]

Saskframer is a prime example of
everything framing. He's the best, at
everything all the time, and isn't
afraid to admit it. He is a total
winner, blowing his own trumpet all the
time. He grows malt and gets it all the
time. So we's should to. I'm guessing.
Sask farmer is always on fantastic
family vacations, hauling grain, makin
life long buddies at grain companies and
railroads. He's truly a legend in his
own mind and kin do everything, fer
everyone all at the same time, bet he
thinks he's great in bed two! Guess he
is trying to be a lot like me. Hee,
heee!

[charliep]

For what it is worth, the malt feed variety split in Alberta is about 50 50 (AFSC data). Looking at about Most Alberta farmers work their pencil and calculator to figure which one is best. Historically malt barley has been in the top three crops in terms of profitability. Know farmers that consistently get barley selected and have a good relationship with a maltster. Nothing fancy about these guys. Learn the formula to growing malt barley, pay attention agronomically and maintain good relations with buyers.

[charliep]

Might also highlight that after the crappy quality of 2010, all the domestic maltsters are on bin bottoms and will be selecting early/taking delivery off the combine. Should be early opportunties in the export market as well for fall selection/shipment. Thats the demand side.

I would try for malt - a $2/bu spread between malt and feed makes it worthwhile. Would like the $6 or whatever in my pocket versus waiting for final payments - too much risk in the year ahead. All these comments are under single desk and the rules (unclear as they are) that exist today.

[Partners]

We got $6.00 per Bushel cash plus from Richardson's...All our Bly went malt...much better than $4.00 FD...Plus they took 1/2 of it already...

[bird]

In Alberta and We Grow lots of Bly. Malt Cash Plus as high as $6.50 @ 80bu/acre. $520 gross return. Feed $5.00 for June 2012. $4.25 off combine today. Gotta avg 110-120 bu/ac to be equal. Started a pivot tonight of feed bly and yield monitor is threw the roof. Feed bly works under certain circumstances.

[chuckChuck]

Green forgot to mention that Ontario Directors democratically voted to end the monopoly. Also Quebec has a single desk for wheat for human consumption called Federation de Producteurs Cultivateurs du Quebec. So why is it that prairie farmers don't get a binding vote? Why did Ontario and Quebec get a vote on their marketing boards?

Also on the issue of fairness all you guys and gals like to dance around the issue, but not one of you has made a good argument as to why supply managed sectors get special treatment by a free market government?

There is no choice in the matter. Your freedom is taken away. You can't produce milk, eggs or poultry and sell it outside of system unless you are very small micro-producers. Why the double standard Conservative supporters?

Feeling a little uncomfortable?

[FarmRanger]

Not the bogus comparison to supply
management again.  

Supply management:  brought about by an
overwhelming majority of producers of the time of
it's conception.  However I'll conceived at the
time (drastically increasing the prices to
consumers while having the subsidies ultimately
exiting the industry with the sale of quota), this
subsidy did benefit the producers of the time.  
Compare prices on either side of the border to
see the effectiveness.

CWB single desk: brought about by government
with no plebiscite of those forced under it's
mandate.  High degree of self promotion, but no
demonstrable price benefit to the producer.  In
fact, all evidence shows that being the only
buyer, and one of many sellers in the world has
only given the CWB the ability to reduce prices
by being able to source grain no matter how low
a price they end up paying us.  Once again,
compare prices on either side of the border to
see the effectiveness.

Comparing supply management and the CWB is
like comparing oranges and apples.  
Or more aptly, oranges and road apples.

I'll be more comfortable Aug. 1, 2012

[gregpet]

Doesn't look like any dancing there chuckchuck.
Now tell us why the CWB is so good. Where is your
proof? The prices and price signals I see do not bode
well for the CWB.

[parsley]

chukchuck forgot to mention that Ontario Directors did npt democratically vote to end Ontario's participation in the CWB monopoly in 1947 that they were part of.

No, indeed.

The MP's carefully used Parliament to take everyone out of the monopoly, except the West; and they named it the Designated Area.

Legislation. Government bestows and takes away.

If you're of that age, chuckchuck, you must have bawled in your hankie that you didn't get a vote to keep Ontario and Quebec in the CWB.

[Hopperbin]

Chuckchuck this should only be about us western farmers under cwb controle not about any supply management issue.