Barley County AB Barely Commission Sept 2011

[charliep]

From the 2011 CWB producer survey, 66 % of Alberta permit book holders surveyed supported an open market for barley.

[URL="http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/surveys/producer/pdf/survey_062911.pdf"]table 21[/URL]

Can these farmers ask for their money back?

[TOM4CWB]

Rockpile;

You have blinders on!

Here is the list of licensed Dealers that remit levy to the Alberta Barley Commission:

VITERRA - ACHESON GRAIN ACHESON
780-960-4602

MORISON FARMS LTD AIRDRIE
403-948-4390

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA AIRDRIE
403-948-5913

RAHR MALTING CANADA LTD ALIX
403-747-2777

STAFFORD FEEDERS LTD. ATHABASCA
780-675-9207

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA ATHABASCA
780-675-4999

CAN-OAT MILLING, A DIVISION OF VITERRA INC BARRHEAD
780-674-3960

CHAMPION FEEDS SERVICES LTD - BARRHEAD
BARRHEAD
780-674-2910

CHAMPION COMMODITIES BARRHEAD
780-674-2910

NEWWEST MILLING BASSANO
403-641-2200

CARGILL LIMITED BLACKIE
403-684-3374

SOUTH ISLAND FARMS LTD BOW ISLAND
403-545-2422

LAKESIDE FEEDYARDS INC. BROOKS
403-362-3326

VITERRA - BROOKS GRAIN
BROOKS 403-362-8591

CANADA MALTING COMPANY LIMITED CALGARY
403-809-5294

FEDERATED COOPERATIVES LIMITED CALGARY
403-531-6656

LOUIS DREYFUS CANADA LTD CALGARY
403-205-3322

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CALGARY
403-570-4314

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CALGARY
403-243-4636

CARGILL LIMITED CAMROSE
780-672-4710

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CAMROSE
780-675-1115

JAYDEL FARMS CARROT CREEK
780-795-2283

VITERRA - CARSELAND GRAIN CARSELAND
403-934-1826

CLARESHOLM BEEF PRODUCERS LTD. CLARESHOLM 403-625-2911

LOZEMAN FARM LTD. CLARESHOLM
403-625-3780

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CLARESHOLM
403-625-3337

NEWCO COMMODITIES LIMITED COALDALE
403-345-3335

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CONSORT
403-577-3535

CORO VIEW FARMS LTD. CORONATION
403-578-2788

VITERRA - CROSSFIELD GRAIN CROSSFIELD
403-946-4311

VITERRA - DAWSON CREEK GRAIN DAWSON CREEK 250-782-9264

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA DRAYTON VALLEY 780-621-0313

CARGILL LIMITED EDMONTON
780-454-0475

FEDERATED COOPERATIVES LIMITED EDMONTON
780-472-6767

GREAT NORTHERN GRAIN TERMINALS LTD.
EDMONTON 780-482-1450

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA FAIRVIEW
780-835-2288

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA FALHER
780-837-2258

VITERRA - FALHER GRAIN FALHER
780-837-2093

FEED RITE FORT MACLEOD
800-567-8645

VITERRA - FORT MACLEOD FORT MACLEOD
403-553-3373

PROVIDENCE GRAIN SOLUTIONS FORT SASKATCHEWAN 780-997-0211

PROVIDENCE GRAIN SOLUTIONS FORT SASKATCHEWAN 780-997-0212

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA FORT SASKATCHEWAN 780-998-3437

CHAMPION FEED SERVICES LTD. GRANDE PRAIRIE 780-532-3151

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTAGRANDE PRAIRIE 780-532-1281

VITERRA - GRANDE PRARIE GRAIN GRANDE PRAIRIE 780-532-2130

VITERRA - GRASSY LAKE GRAIN GRASSY LAKE 403-655-2497

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA GRIMSHAW
780-332-5633

VITERRA - GRIMSHAW GRAIN GRIMSHAW
780-332-4333

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA HANNA
403-854-4441

WESTLAND FARM & FEEDLOT LTD. HEISLER
780-889-2244

VITERRA - HIGH LEVEL GRAIN HIGH LEVEL
780-926-4421

VITERRA - HIGH PRAIRIE GRAIN HIGH PRAIRIE 780-523-3266

TONGUE CREEK FEEDERS LTD HIGH RIVER
403-652-7410

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA HIGH RIVER
403-652-2733

VITERRA - HYTHE GRAIN HYTHE
780-356-3786

1309497 ALBERTA LTD. o/a W.A. GRAIN & PULSE SOLUTIONS INNISFAIL
403-227-0500

VITERRA - KILLAM GRAIN KILLAM
780-385-2188

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA LA CRETE
780-928-3088

VITERRA - LACOMBE GRAIN LACOMBE
403-782-9554

ZUIDHOF FEEDERS LTD LACOMBE
403-885-4074

VITERRA - LAVOY GRAIN LAVOY
780-658-2408

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA LEDUC
780-986-4554

CARGILL LIMITED LETHBRIDGE
403-327-4380

C.B. CONSTANTINI LTD. LETHBRIDGE
403-320-0006

COUNTRY COMMODITIES LIMITED LETHBRIDGE
403-320-2622

MARKET PLACE COMMODITIES LTD. LETHBRIDGE 403-394-1711

PARRISH & HEIMBECKER LIMITED LETHBRIDGE 403-320-9440

SHAFER COMMODITIES LETHBRIDGE
403-328-5033

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA LETHBRIDGE
403-328-5531

WILBUR ELLIS COMPANY LETHBRIDGE
403-328-3311

FEED RITE LINDEN
800-561-9012

HELLAND LAND & CATTLE CO. LTD.
LOMOND 403-792-2150

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA MAYERTHORPE
780-786-4451

LANDMARK FEEDS MEDICINE HAT
403-527-5600

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA MEDICINE HAT
403-529-2424

WESTMOR TERMINALS INC MORINVILLE
780-939-3216

AJL FARMS LTD NITON JUNCTION
780-723-6244

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA OLDS
403-556-3348

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA OYEN
403-664-3611

WINDY ACRE HOLDINGS LTD. PENHOLD
403-886-4301

BUTTE GRAIN MERCHANTS LTD PICTURE BUTTE 403-732-5641

RAY GRISNICH FARMS LTD PICTURE BUTTE
403-635-4168

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA PINCHER CREEK 403-627-5343

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA PONOKA
403-783-4811

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
PROVOST 780-753-2226

VITERRA - PROVOST GRAIN PROVOST
780-753-8415

CACTUS COMMODITY CORP.
RAYMOND 855-322-2887

HWY 52 BEEF PRODUCERS LTD.
RAYMOND 403-752-2333

MIKE LLOYD TRUCKING INC RAYMOND
403-752-4057

WILDE BROTHERS AG TRADING
RAYMOND 403-752-0115

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
RED DEER 403-356-3800

VITERRA REGINA
306-569-4411

SUPERIOR FEED & SUPPLY LTD
ROCKYFORD 403-533-3811

VITERRA - INDUS GRAIN
ROCKYVIEW 403-936-3100

FEDERATED COOPERATIVES LIMITED
SASKATOON 306-244-3165

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
SPRUCE GROVE 780-962-2282

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
ST PAUL 780-645-7700

VITERRA - STAR GRAIN
STAR 780-895-2137

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
STETTLER 403-742-3426

BRUCE FARMS LTD STRATHMORE
403-934-4186

CATTLELAND FEEDYARDS LTD.
STRATHMORE 403-934-4030

LANDMARK FEEDS STRATHMORE
403-934-6024

NAMAKA FARMS INC
STRATHMORE 403-934-6122

STRANGMUIR FARMS
STRATHMORE 403-934-4331

VITERRA FEED PRODUCTS
STRATHMORE 800-835-1833

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
STRATHMORE 403-934-6684

HERDER RANCH SYLVAN LAKE
403-887-5523

SANDY HILL STOCK FARMS LTD.
TABER 403-223-8800

SHIPWHEEL CATTLE FEEDERS LTD.
TABER 403-223-4333

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
TABER 403-223-8917

WESTERN COMMODITIES INC.
TISDALE 306-873-4401

ARNS BRAE FARMS LTD
TROCHU 403-442-2698

CARGILL LIMITED TROCHU
403-443-2522

LEMAY FARMS TROCHU
403-442-3159

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
TROCHU 403-442-4262

VITERRA - TROCHU GRAIN
TROCHU 403-442-2372

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
TWO HILLS 780-657-3333

C.B. CONSTANTINI LTD.
VANCOUVER 604-669-1212

VITERRA - VERMILION GRAIN
VERMILION 780-853-2700

CARGILL LIMITED
VERMILION 780-853-4777

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
VERMILION 780-853-5323

CARGILL LIMITED VIKING
780-336-4886

PROVIDENCE GRAIN SOLUTIONS
VIKING 780-336-4800

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
VULCAN 403-485-2257

VITERRA - VULCAN GRAIN
VULCAN 403-485-6696

DRI-LAND FEEDERS LTD
WARNER 403-642-3732

PROVIDENCE GRAIN SOLUTIONS
WESKATENAU 780-358-2760

CHAMPION FEED SERVICES LTD.
WESTLOCK 780-349-5886

JUBILEE FARMS (FEEDLOTS)
WESTLOCK 780-349-2476

UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA
WESTLOCK 780-349-4055

WESTLOCK TERMINALS (NGC) LTD.
WESTLOCK 780-349-7034

WETASKIWIN COOP
WETASKIWIN 780-352-9155

CARGILL LIMITED
WINNIPEG 204-947-6262

NUTRECO CANADA INC
WINNIPEG 204-928-7300

RIDLEY INC
WINNIPEG 204-254-9516



Your statement cannot be proven correct by the fact the vast majority of production bought by these dealers is non-board barley.

Perhaps an appology is in order... Rockpile.

[wd9]

And other feed lots not in that list.

From the ABC website 40 cents of every dollar goes to research.

[charliep]

For what it is worth, the charter challenge occurred over 10 years ago. Alway interesting to see how long peoples memories are. For some it just seems like yesterday I guess.

[URL="http://www.albertabarley.com/pdf/annualreport2001.pdf"]2011 annual report page 2[/URL]

ABC has done a lot to increase levy collection starting at getting more feedlots/feed mills on board. The way they do this is to show value to stakeholders.

[charliep]

Oops. Link should show 2001 annual report. The 2010 link is below. Albertans can read the annual reports to determine value.

[URL="http://www.albertabarley.com/commission/accountability/documents/AnnualReport2010.pdf"]2010 annual report[/URL]

[Burbert]

IF'N the cwb meets its demise, then there
will be no need fer the AB Barely
Commission either. IT"LL have
accomplished its goal, and that of the AB
gobermont. This org is currently HEADLESS
at the momment anyway.........

[charliep]

Burbert

Hate to disagree but the need to invest in barley research remains to
stem the decline in barley acres in western Canada. Barley is important
for Alberta's livestock industry in general and cattle in particular. It is
also important for the malt industry. Work has to continue to improve
barley's profitability and competitiveness relative to other crops or acres
will continue to decline.

How Western Grain Research Foundation continues to be funded is a
concern. Likely will follow the ABC model including expanding to
collecting levies on the domestic feed market. Lots of discussion in other
threads.

But I guess you will agree that any organization has to survive on its
business merits as indicated by stakeholders willingness to invest/use
its services.

[TOM4CWB]

Burbert,

Opportunity expands exponentially to increase productivity and profitability as we remove the export restrictions on Barley. I state the obvious. We need better new barley varieties and productivity. Healthy food is key to feeding a hungry world... Barley is a very healthy food ingredient... often times better for us than wheat!

ABC has been working on this solution since its inception... and has just nipped the surface of solutions to reduce health care costs and increase life expectancy of our civilisation!

Be KIND Burbert.

[charliep]

TOM4CWB

Your posting above here highlighted the risk of doing nothing and
continuing to live in a commodity world with no innovation/research.
Russia, Ukraine, Kazakstan, etc (non traditional exporters) are coming
on like gang busters with improvements in productivity setting the
stage for the world cereal markets. Continuing on our current course
means we are going to go head to head with them in the future (starting
this year). These countries are getting their act together on a whole
bunch of fronts including quality, logistics, phytosanity, etc. Not rock
science. Just doing what Canada does.

Aging population equals the need for more fibre in North America.
Barley beta glutens equals healthier bowels. An opportunity.

[checking]

Charliep.

You make the interesting comment that "barley is important for the Alberta livestock industry, the malt industry, and aging population diet, feeding the world, and ..." I imagine that you might agree that the primary producer is only a small fraction of this barley importance, so ABC will be collecting checkoffs from all barley chain users, right? Do you have a breakdown of percentages of each contributing group?

[charliep]

Can't answer that question directly. Will note the power of
commissions is partnering with other producer groups (eg. WGRF,
CWB, livestock groups, etc), government and private industry. From
the Alberta Barley Commission website, they have been able to lever
their funds 12 times (every dollar of ABC funding results in $12
invested in research and other activities). Dollars investment gives
farmers a say in research activities. Leverage expands the magnitude
of what can be accomplished.

Example in Alberta. Both Alberta Beef Producers and Alberta Barley
Commission are active investors in the Lacombe feed barley breeding
programs. Plant breeders use this basic funding to go out and find
more dollars for their programs.

[wilagro]

Tom, your list of licensed Dealers that remit levy to the Alberta Barley Commission is no doubt accurate.
The problem for the ABC was that these people were NOT remitting the funds or portion thereof.

The ABC published an article not long ago trying to get these people to comply.

Without the power to audit the books, how could they even hope to acquire their DUE funds.

In a way its somewhat like the Mafia and their collection of "protection money" without the enforcers.

Any government that forces a group of people to contribute to a "special interest group" such as the ABC is in my view overstepping their authority to govern even if the provision is there to ask for a refund of these monies.