Occupy

[cottonpicken]

Still like the libertarian movement Mbratrud,lol?

[cottonpicken]

Take the test,i dare you guys/girls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAiYlaGxyV0

[rockpile]

Hey Cott, I totally agree with you. I guess I'm more
stuck in the classical sense of a Libertarian like JS
Mill and Adam Smith than todays crop of wannabes.
Ron Paul has a snowballs chance in hell of winning
the GOP much less the Presidency. But the other
pretenders are already lining up to invade Iran, like
we can afford that junket. And I've advocated (and
took some shit for it) legalizing drugs as well for no
other reason than we could tax the hell out of them
like booze and eliminate organized crime. Yet
Harper and the boys are going completely the other
way! Go figure. So, my final question is - to protect
freedom, how far do we go to restrict it? Meaning
stopping others from ever questioning 'our values
and vision'.

[cottonpicken]

Holy Shit

It doesn't look like him but.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0dmRJ0oWg&feature=related


Good thing its,rainy and shitty out to waste a friday afternoon.

[Hopperbin]

LOL I ended up on the right side of Statist but dissagree with the the description of statist people. hmmmm, might have to recrunch.

[parsley]

I would agree with legalizing drugs conditional
upon the person paying their own healthcare
costs So I marked that one maybe, cott. Lol

[cottonpicken]

Big question.

The great greek philosophers where thinking about this stuff.

As much as i can tell the individual should only be punished when he victimizes someone
else.

A republic should be explained here,which may not be understood by many.

When a country declares itself a republic it means it is ruled by the rule of law.Not the
mob,or democracy.

The "republican party" was originally based around the republic or the constitution.

The constitution was the frame work for the greatest country that was ever born.

Based on life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If this makes sence,i try to use as few words as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gollke8hlM&feature=related

[cottonpicken]

A libertarian wouldn't make anyone pay an addicts
health care costs.

[parsley]

China tried your suggestion, rocky. A swack of
people divying up wealth means farmers live on
$1K a year in China. You couldn't afford the trip
riding on a horse, to visit with the helicopter
executive you were impressed with.

You want to appease marauders who come
to steal what you have earned. Right? 30,'then
40, then 50,'then 60, then 70% of yr earnings.
What is the point when you say no? Or can
you? Pars

[rockpile]

Cott, JS Mill would. "Those incapable of looking after
themselves", recognition we are not all created equal.
Took the test - centrist right on the line between
Libertarian and Dem. Interesting. It is what it is.

[rockpile]

Pars, I have lots of ways I could hide my tax
payable. I do what I think is fair. The helicopter guy
creates nothing. He takes the value of what you
earn and create and plays it off against the greed
and expectations of others, makes lots of money
for his shareholders and lives the good life. He was
quite open to bragging about his 212 mil bonus last
year. Said something about lots of money to be
made in gold and currency exchanges. Broker at
Morgan Stanley. Very entertaining. We happened to
be at the Rum House two blocks off Broadway on
47th and he was with a rather young and gorgeous
'client' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). I don't
remember too many more details (though his suit
was to die for) because we stuck it out until closing
time at 4:30 AM. Hence my cynicism. We are mere
pawns in a great big chess game and we don't even
get to see the board.

[hedgehog]

rockpile, you are dead right.
the last 20 yrs has seen capitalism run wild.
in the uk, housing is seen as a business for rich people to play at, screwing rents up and forcing capital values beyond normal persons reach.
js mill would recognise it, its just like victorian times.
the mortgage was introduced after ww1 as a bolster against communism, so that working people could buy a home.
now , it is a vehicle for the rich to buy even more property, while families have no chance to purhase.