Agriculture policy depends on which farmers Ottawa is wooing

[Mjolnir]

I might point out that every province has dairy,
poultry and egg marketing boards. Only the west
gets the CWB, "white people only at the water
fountain" is one hell of a way to run a country.
Anytime I see eastern Lieberals or the Bloc
voting in favor of the CWB it gives me the
creeps. One might wonder how much money
they make off the CWB, or steal, or hide.

[wd9]

There has always been a balance from NFU to CFA to GGC lobbying government. Seems when right wing actually gets listened to the majority of media which is left wing cries foul. Interesting.

[silverback]

I am guessing that 10 - 20 years ago those who favor keeping farmers shackled to the cwb were the loudest ones to support supply management.

I don't know where any of these pro cwb people live, but around here there are hundreds of guys asking for freedom from the cwb, and nobody wanting to get into the dairy or poultry game.

Chucky, again we have to say, "We'll take care of the mandatory wheat board FIRST!, and then we'll tackle your little pet project, OK?"

Do you really want the supply management sector stripped of it's price setting ability, or are you just flinging crap?

[TOM4CWB]

Chuckchuck,

For the tenth time...

Supply Management policy by this Conservative Party was determined in 2005 at CPC AGM policy convention in Montreal. The CWB position to remove the 'single desk' was approved at the same CPC Convention in 2005.

There has been ample discussion at every CPC policy convention since; 2 of them the most recent in June of 2011. The policies on Supply Management and the CWB are BOTH well supported by Conservatives nation wide.

Try to cause a rift; ignore the facts. These Conservative CWB and Supply Management policies were created and maintained by a free democratic process; just in case you care.

But Chuckchuck...you already know this.

Stir the pot... Stir the pot.

Your pot is only full of hot air!!!

[wd9]

Good post Tom4

[Braveheart]

Supply management is as far from "Soviet style" ag policy as you can get. Only the rich need apply. Totally captive market. A true Capitalist dream.

[Happytrails]

For the nth time the CWB on the table not "supply management". Neither is defensible but we have to address them individually. Better to gore a few oxen than thousands of grain growers. HT

[gregpet]

This is just my opinion, but maybe the government
realizes that milk and poultry are profitable for their
producers under the current system while the
former CWB was not profitable and an impediment
to growth and success to prairie wheat and barley
farmers.

Still, at least Integrity_Farmer and I can agree that
these two cannot be compared since we have shown
you that already.

[freewheat]

I wonder if chuck chuck, Ahem
korneychuk, can tell us the names of all
the dairy farmers who are upset at being
"forced" into supply management.

And then tell us if he can find guys who
want the cwb to die and get lost.

That my friends, is the difference. 100%
of dairy farmers want to be in that
system. With WESTERN wheat and barley,
not so much.

So to the cwb lovers, korneychuk, and
flaman, Harper is listening to the
farmers in each sector. That is the
entire difference. If the cwb was loved
by all, I doubt he would touch it.

[checking]

In their time as government and wantabee governors the Liberals and NDP supported the soviet style farm marketing boards of Canada, and in the same time frame supported the freedom and free market choice of non-designated area farmers. Is that hypocrical? Is that an eastern vote getting tactic that doesn't ruffle feathers or contented milk cows, or is that just good politics?

The Conservatives have now pushed the freedom line a little more forward for agriculture, but not into the realm of marketing boards for dairy and poultry, and chuckchuck thinks that is hypocritical. Well, I'd call it progress to where it all should be headed.

The real issue here is that Chuckchuck's shade of red writing isn't enough that this is all about a philosophical debate between him and agriville. I believe he should man up on what part of his farm business advantage he believes he will lose if the freedom front is progressed in the DA.

[TOM4CWB]

Checking,

The amusing/sick part of this is that for organic growers (like Flaman) that the CWB has largely exempted from the 'Single Desk' and had already given 'market choice' to...

The only difference will be CWB saleries paid/picked/extracted from commercial grain growers pockets... will not be paid to CWB Directors' bank accounts.

[sumdumguy]

If Canada wants to be included in world trade
negotiations, all of these trade distorting boards
will have to be dismantled. I predict that the
country will have no choice but to remove the
privileged status of supply managed farmers,
votes or no votes.

[parsley]

And the complete part of Tom's chronicle is that
not only for organic growers (like Flaman) that
the CWB has largely exempted from the 'Single
Desk' and had already given 'market choice' to...
But ALSO the seed growers have been enjoying
market choice for decades.

Organic growers publicly attacked the CWB.
Seed growers quietly purred their way through
complimentary CWB licensing.

Lest we forget. Pars

[Fransisco]

Looking at the title here I'd have to say, <b>WOW...</b> someone has figured out that the conservatives are actually <b>POLITICIANS!</b> Who knew!?! In related news scientists have discovered water is still wet, grass is still green, and you can talk about supply management as much as you want but the wheat board monopoly is still toast.

[bluefargo]

As a seed grower I can assure you that I have not been "enjoying marketing choice for decades". Every bushel of commercial wheat and malt barley I grow must, by law, be sold through the Canadian Wheat Board. Seed, which is a specialized product operates under a different set of rules as it should. Being a specialized product organic production operates under a different set of rules as well.
In less than a year this discussion will be irrelevant anyway.