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    Agriculture policy depends on which farmers Ottawa is wooing

    Agriculture policy depends on which farmers Ottawa is wooing
    steven chase
    OTTAWA— From Saturday's Globe and Mail (includes correction)

    The Harper government has never been so conflicted about farmers, particularly now that Ottawa is freeing western wheat and barley producers from the obligation to sell their products through the Canadian Wheat Board.

    Are farmers free-market-loving entrepreneurs who need to be liberated from state cartels such as the Wheat Board?
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    Or should they be heavily regulated through production quotas and price supports and fenced off from foreign competition by high tariff walls? Like dairy farmers, for instance, who were promised this year the Conservatives will “resolutely defend” their sheltered businesses.

    The answer depends, apparently, on which farmers the Harper government is wooing.

    On one hand, the Conservatives champion free enterprise for producers of beef, grains and oilseeds such as canola, and seek greater access to foreign consumers during trade talks.

    “Entrepreneurial farmers are proving over and over that they can and will help drive our economy if they have control over their farm and over their bottom line,” Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz said as he moved to un-yoke western producers from the Wheat Board on Wednesday.

    On the other hand, the Harper government is firmly wedded to a protectionist approach to farmers who produce Canadian milk, eggs or poultry.

    Tariffs of more than 200 per cent shelter this supply-managed sector from foreign rivals, and domestic production is limited by a command-and-control approach to the farm economy.

    Mr. Harper has long championed dismantling the Wheat Board’s monopoly for his western base, but one-time adviser Tom Flanagan says the former Canadian Alliance politician shelved his aversion to supply management years ago when courting rural Ontario votes.

    The Conservatives’ stout refusal to lower protectionist walls around dairy, egg and poultry farms has already cost it a seat at major trade talks among Pacific Rim nations, according to Lawrence Herman, a lawyer and former Canadian diplomat who is at Cassels Brock & Blackwell in Toronto.

    The United States and eight other partners including Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and Vietnam are negotiating an Asia-Pacific regional trade deal known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement.

    Mr. Ritz said in a statement that contrasting Ottawa’s treatment of different farm groups is “like comparing apples and walnuts.” He said supply management was created in response to farmer’s demands, while the Wheat Board was imposed on western producers during wartime “to ensure cheap wheat to Europe.”

    Mr. Herman said supply management and untethering farmers from the Wheat Board are irreconcilable approaches to agriculture.

    “However the minister attempts to rationalize these policies, they’re fundamentally contradictory,” the international lawyer said.

    "On the one hand, the government’s trumpeting the virtues of free markets by removing the monopoly powers of the Canadian Wheat Board. On the other, they’re going to the wall to defend a Soviet-style command system, one where both the total allowable supply and the price paid to the farmers are set by the farmers themselves. By any standard, this is the antithesis of a free and open market.”

    #2
    My bet is on the milk board first. Let's pit farmers against consumers, yes it's the conservative way, divide and conquer.

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      #3
      I don't recall setting the price of my wheat through
      the CWB. Wheat and barley is sold into markets with
      many competitors and their is no monopoly power or
      benefit. I think milk producers set the price of their
      milk in Canada.

      Can someone explain how this is the same?

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        #4
        How are you going to set your price on wheat?

        Oh that's right you own a computer, so you just type it in and it's all good.

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          #5
          That's the difference, you can't set the wheat price
          but the milk producers set their milk price.

          Thanks for making my point I_F.

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            #6
            Who was Ralph Goodale and his Liberal
            government wooing when he had Andy
            McMeachan shackled and jailed and then
            changed the CWB Act by Order in Council?  
            Overight  Without consultation?

            And how much consultation was there when
            fleets of ships were being bought with farm cash,
            in a sweaty backroom love in?

            Yes well.   Farms who actually believe in REAL
            marketing, instead of faux-Board marketing
            should have kicked the single asses out on the
            street years ago, and maybe then you'd learn a
            little self-reliance 
             Pars

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              #7
              Now we can stop trying to compare the former CWB
              to the dairy sector. At least we put that arguement
              to rest quickly, thanks again I_F.

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                #8
                wheat prices could be set if there were no exports. that's why it's called supply management but what would you do with all that extra land? live by the sword; die by the sword.

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                  #9
                  Harper and Ritz have a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde going on here with ag. policy in this country.

                  Where are all the freedom fighters who screamed unfairness because Ontario didn't have theCWB? Here we have gross unfairness between production sectors.

                  Ritz's rhetoric has been just awfull on the CWB. I don't think I have seen a agriculture minister make so many inflamatory statements about any issue.

                  Meanwhile he supports Soviet style policy on dairy and poultry. What a hypocrite!

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                    #10
                    Chuck, the difference has been shown between the
                    the CWB and the milk/poultry producers thanks to
                    Integrity_Farmer.

                    You are trying, but failing miserably, comparing the
                    former CWB to milk and poultry producers. They set
                    their price while wheat and barley producers accept
                    a price that is determined by the open market.

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                      #11
                      Is the designated area defined in phase 2,
                      chuckchuck?

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                        #12
                        All you posters who think you can run and hide with bogus arguments about how supply management is not like the CWB are pretty lame. Everyone is well aware of the differences and the advantages.

                        No one is suggesting supply management can work for an industry that is dependent on exports.

                        Face the facts! Harper and Ritz support soviet style supply management marketing boards which are the opposite of freedom and free markets.

                        If you are going to use the freedom argument against the CWB, then how can you defend support for supply management? Harper and Ritz do both.

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                          #13
                          The important point is supply management will be gone as soon as Comrade Harper decides he doesn't need the political support of dairy and poultry farmers.

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                            #14
                            Re the end of supply management; it can't happen too soon for a lot of us. However it is a red herring in the CWB discussion. Try to focus chuck.

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                              #15
                              Since the CWB is national legislation, and since
                              wheat and barley is replaced with a "grains"
                              designation,and since  the Designated seems to
                              be undefined, and since  Eastern Canada votes
                              for,  and promotes the CWB, is there an
                              opportunity for you Chuckchuck to pair up with an
                              east-west CWB, with Pierre in PQ selling canola
                              plus ontario's AVJoe selling lentils?  (grains)

                              PLUS think about amalgamating with the new
                              voluntary Eastern milk marketing board so
                              chuckchuck can also sell and produce butter? 

                              OhBerg would presume he'll sell the cream, but
                              then you would be able to opt out if you felt
                              grievously injured. 

                              And as a coup, you can convince the Ont Wheat
                              Board to disarm it's legislation so FINALLY,
                              quebec and ontario can enjoy the full benefits  of
                              a national marketing CWB. 

                              You will be rid of the Western critters who insist
                              on individually hauling their wagonloads to North
                              Dakota. 

                              Prepare!  Learn French.    pars

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