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    And Now For Your Daily Absurdites

    First off The NDP think seven MPs should recuse themselves on the cwb vote because they are in conflict of intrest.

    NDP singles out seven Tory MPs in potential conflict over wheat board
    steven chase
    OTTAWA— Globe and Mail Update
    Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 1:01PM EDT

    The NDP says they’ve counted at least seven Tory MPs in a conflict of interest on the wheat board because they, their spouses or their offspring have stakes in grain farms or income from operations.

    “They’re both duty- and honour-bound to recuse themselves from the vote on the Canadian Wheat Board because they have a personal interest in the outcome,” NDP wheat-board critic Pat Martin said.

    He points to the Commons conflict-of-interest code that says: “A member shall not participate in debate on or vote on a question in which he or she has a private interest.”

    There are 57 ridings in Western Canada where farmers are currently forced to sell their wheat and barley to the board – an obligation the majority Tory government is preparing to eliminate. All but five of these MPs are Conservative and none of the opposition members has grain farming interests.

    The Conservatives aren’t buying it.

    Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz rejects the notion that some Tory MPs are in a conflict of interest on the wheat board. He says the entire Conservative caucus will all be allowed to cast votes.

    “Our party will be standing up and voting as the only party that truly represents Western Canadian farmers,” Mr. Ritz said in a prepared statement emailed by spokeswoman Meagan Murdoch.

    Government officials said they believe MPs are exempt from conflict-of-interest rules in this case because the ethics code contains an exception for measures affect “a broad class of the public.”

    Mr. Martin raised the matter in the Commons Monday and has filed a complaint with the federal Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson.

    There are about 75,000 grain farmers in Western Canada whose future will be altered by changes to the wheat board. That means the affected group is about 0.22 per cent of Canada’s population of 34 million.

    Private interests under the conflict-of-interest code include matters that affect a member’s spouse, son or daughter.

    Using a disclosure registry of public office holders, the NDP has identified seven Tory members of Parliament whom they say have grain farming interests either directly or through spouses or offspring.

    The NDP says the Conservative MPs in question include: Yellowhead MP Rob Merrifield; Vegreville-Wainright MP Leon Benoit; Macleod MP Ted Menzies; Red Deer MP Earl Dreeshen; Cypress Grasslands MP David Anderson; Crowfoot MP Kevin Sorenson; and Prince Albert MP Randy Hoback.

    Mr. Martin said these and any other affected MPs should identify their conflict in this case.

    “It couldn’t be any more clear: you have to avoid conflict and the appearance of conflict, so any other MP that may have family or relatives associated with grain production on the prairies should also recuse themselves even if they’ve not listed themselves as farmers,” the NDP MP said.

    Several of the Tory MPs flagged by the NDP stood in the Commons last week to offer personal insights on the wheat board.

    “This is an important issue that is near and dear to my heart and the comments I am going to make this afternoon are biased, I admit,” Mr. Merrifield told the Commons on Oct. 20.

    “I am going to fess up right off the bat that I am a farmer,” the Yellowhead MP said.

    “My son is actually the fourth generation on our farm so agriculture goes back a long way in our family. I have produced wheat and barley every year for the last 30 to 40 years and my comments are biased because I will do and say anything I possibly can to support the farm family and agriculture in western Canada.”

    The Conservatives are using their majority government to scrap the wartime-era monopoly Ottawa granted the Canadian Wheat Board over western wheat and barley sales.

    The change will grant Western Canadian farmers, from B.C.’s Peace River district to eastern Manitoba, the freedom as of August, 2012, to sell their wheat and barley to whomever they choose. In most cases, the buyers are expected to be big agricultural firms such as Cargill.

    The measure is divisive. A wheat-board plebiscite recently showed 62 per cent of wheat farmers voted to stick with single desk monopoly sales, as did 51 per cent of barley producers.

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    And second Liberal Scott Reid of Beer and Popcorn fame had this to say about the cwb in the Ottawa Citizen

    SR: The CWB is not anti-competitive. To the contrary, it encourages competition but on a platform of shared effort that allows our wheat farmers to leverage their collective might to maximum advantage in the face of a very cutthroat, very competitive global market. So I don't buy that disbanding the CWB is sound public policy. It is ideological muscle getting flexed against our prairie farmers and particularly the smaller family farms. And if you're going to run roughshod over someone at least have the dignity to confess why you're doing it. It's not because that's what most wheat farmers want. It's because that's what Stephen Harper wants.

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    The NDP say farmers should vote on the cwb yet farmers shouldn't vote on the cwb. They also say farmers are going to be driven to ruin because the are going to financially gain when the cwb is gone?

    Yup sounds like NDP thinking to me.

    Scott Reid and the Liberals think the cwb promotes competition by eliminating it.

    Wow, logic just isn't these peoples strong suit is it!

    #2
    I could see it being conflict of interest cuz their grain farms would be making more money with the cwb and their high benefit overpaid employees are out of the money pool.

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      #3
      Ok, so using Martin’s logic, which of these issues would put MP’s in a conflict of interest? Which issues would they not be able to vote on if the outcome of their vote(s) had a direct impact on their personal lives?
      1. Taxes (all federal taxes-income tax, GST, Excise Taxes, Duties…..)
      2. Pensions (CPP and Private Pension laws)
      3. MP salaries
      4. MP Pensions
      5. Universal Health Care
      6. Unemployment Insurance
      7…..
      Heck, come to think of it, on all of the above and a thousand other issues, there would be no one eligible to vote in Parliament! Maybe that wouldn’t be a bad thing!! How many costly, ineffective programs would be have avoided if they couldn’t vote!
      Hhmmmm. Maybe I can agree with Martin;-)

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        #4
        I wonder how the NDP thinking goes? In order to
        have a conflict of interest they must think that the
        Conservative farmer MPs will benefit from the
        demise of the single desk.

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          #5
          @FarmRanger try not and over think the NDP. Drowning man flailing comes to mind.

          I know I try and empathize as well, but it looks like they are flat out of ideas.

          To paraphrase Pat Martin
          Parliament is supreme that's the Canadian system

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            #6
            Farmranger is right on!

            If grain growers are worse off... how can it be a conflict?

            If that be the case.. all grain growers who voted in the plebicite and Directors who stand to 'gain' would have to 'recluse' themselves from CWB votes on the 'single desk'... which is right for organic growers voting themselves an exemption from the normal buy-back process.

            This does get funnier by the minute!

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              #7
              Heard on the radio @ noon, conflict of interest because they might stand to benefit!
              When the ndp shoots themselves in the foot they use an elephant gun!

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