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    #46
    Just curious on the 5 % and where it came from. Even the CWB plebicite indicated 38 % of farmers prefered an open market wheat (49 % for barley). The 2011 CWB producer survey indicates Alberta farmers would choose an open market.

    [URL="http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/surveys/producer/pdf/survey_062911.pdf"]charts 15 to 22[/URL]

    You and others have also argued all the way along no one will use the services of the CWB in an open market. The CWB's only value is in a regulated single desk market - your words/not mine.

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      #47
      Where did the 5% number come from? Easy, he made it up. That's what mono's do. Make stuff up and then run and hide when they have to explain themselves.

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        #48
        Propaganda defined, from Wikipedia:
        <i>Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself or one's group.

        Types:
        Big Lie
        The repeated articulation of a complex of events that justify subsequent action. The descriptions of these events have elements of truth, and the "big lie" generalizations merge and eventually supplant the public's accurate perception of the underlying events.
        <b>” Got it?...just FIVE percent of the farmers in western Canada want these changes”</i></b>

        Even the one-sided “plebiscite” that grossly over-represented landlords and excluded completely those farmers who’ve given up growing board grains, only managed to barely garner a simple majority, let alone a 95% majority.

        <i> Cult of personality
        A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. The hero personality then advocates the positions that the propagandist desires to promote. For example, modern propagandists hire popular personalities to promote their ideas and/or products.</i>
        How much does Rick Mercer charge these days?

        <i> Name-calling
        Propagandists use the name-calling technique to start fears and arouse prejudices in their hearers in the intent that the bad names will cause hearers to construct a negative opinion about a group or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist wants hearers to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions about a matter apart from impartial examinations of facts. Name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against the an idea or belief on its own merits.

        <b> “farmers for just me”
        “No Farmranger You would NOT have Been there. Your side has a hard time organizing a two car parade.” </b>

        Don’t be fooled.

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          #49
          Fransisco: Whoops...that should have read...Only 5% of the top wheat producers were in favour of getting rid of the CWB.

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            #50
            willy, the cwb's own surveys consistently have shown the majority of producers want a choice to whom they market or do you not understand english. But lets just say for arguements sake that a majority as you claim want the single desk. Do you really beleive that this majority should take away the basic property rights of the so called minority. Yes or No

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              #51
              There are NO property rights in Canada. Check it out.

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                #52
                So you beleive that your entitiled to your neighbors property is what your saying. Where does the sense of entitlement end Willy?

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                  #53
                  This whole "property" thing is BS and you know it. I have NO desire for your freakin grain and if I did I would make sure that I had a court order to get it. Equating the actions of Federal legislation with me or any other person as wanting your grain is ridiculous to say the least. Who ever came up with that silliness has an active imagination and a weak mind.

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                    #54
                    Willagro offer us farmers the right to market our grain outside the CWB to whomever we choose with no buy back like Ontario has. You cannot say that can you.

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                      #55
                      Will by forcing other farmers to be in your marketting organization you are owning their grain plain and simple, how can you think otherwise? And don't tell us to grow something else until your willing only to grow board grain crops. Poor poor statement

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                        #56
                        The cwb should not be the entity giving export liscences either, as parley can give her own horror stories about that for the organic sector, markets confiscated and under priced from the very people that create and find markets for western grain.

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                          #57
                          Wil, you should be campaigning to
                          havemQuebec join the new Wheat Board. They
                          are traditionally cmmitted single deskers, have
                          large numbers of farmers, and you would be rid
                          of the likes hopper and me! You can box them In
                          with legislation, Wil, and they will indeed be
                          pleasured. It's all in the courting-language. Pars

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                            #58
                            willy your hypocracy is amazing. You say you have no desire for your neighbors grain yet force him to subscribe to your marketing system as to strengthen your position even if it weakens his. You refer to his right to own property as "bullshit". Your attitude is sickening and offensive.
                            Who taught you to have such contempt and disrespect for other people. Save your slurs and name calling and for once try to offer something positive and constructive for an industry that is moving forward to freedom whether you like it or not. Were all tired of the doom and gloom.

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