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    Parsley: Ideological Zealot

    Parsley: In a past thread you proclaimed yourself as an Ideological Zealot. Do you not see anything salvagable from the ashes of the CWB. Changes are inevitable so let's get some hybrid vigour working for us and use the best of both marketing systems to create a system superior to either of it's parents.

    It's not hard to understand your position given your comments of the CWB taking over and screwing up the organic market.

    #2
    What don't you understand? You can lead a cow to water but you cant make it drink. The CWB wants a complete monopoly or nothing at all. Why try to save an organization that refuses to save itself.

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      #3
      farmaholic,

      Like-minded people CAN and MAY make the
      new CWB entity work. Invite other like-minds
      from Quebec. From Ontario. Band together. You
      can even combine farms if you so choose, as
      communal property, similar to One Earth.

      I am divorcing you.

      I own my own land. My own grain. My own cat.
      I pursue individual property rights. We may see
      each other at the elevator and I will be cordial.

      But I will no longer be coerced, or jailed for
      driving my own truck to NYC with a load of my
      own wheat.

      Thats what is new and different. My grain is mine
      again. Get accustomed to it. I view my own grain
      from my own zealoty eyes.

      Not your eyes. Not Goodale's eyes. But my own
      personal eyes. I own my eyes and soon, my
      grain.

      It's worth every minute I've spent battling the
      Wheat Board.

      Get on with your life. The divorce will soon be
      final. Parsley

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        #4
        Fine excepting the fact that we remain serfs at the pleasure of the crown as long as we have NO true property rights in this country.

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          #5
          It's on the agenda. Pars

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            #6
            Lovely blue-sky day, Mc. You gliding down to
            pick me up? Pars

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              #7
              Property rights come at a cost, Mc no such thing
              as a free title
              It always costs 'x' amount.

              So quit muttering, roll up yr sleeves, and forge
              ahead to get your property rights.

              Guns, grain. land. Pars

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                #8
                cwb lovers seem to not want to allow pro choice beliefs, but are in favor of forced, arranged marriage(with no divorce).

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                  #9
                  Dear Parsley; Grounds for divorce: Irreconcilable differnces? I don't think so. My original post was a question simply asking if you thought there was any salvagable pieces? I wouldn't want to pool my canola, lentils, or any other grain sales for that matter. My "power" comes from being able to hold my grain until the time "I" think is right to sell it, not an organization that has no vested interest in it other than to sell it. I have come to realize they don't give a shit if they realize the best price for me or not--why would they--they had no one to answer to. I can make my own mistakes.

                  I used to be a staunch board supporter, ended up on the fence, ass got sore, fell off into the pro choice side. All this reinforced when I woke up one day and realized I was more of a capitalist than a socialist.

                  There are more issues to write than there is space for here. Did the Liberals like it(CWB) so much because Paul Martin's Canadian Steamship Lines liked freighting wheat around the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence. Canadian Railways had a captive market, if you can't process it it will have to be shipped out of the land locked designated area. Inland terminals enjoyed the storage payments. Shipping grain from one area to another to fill ocean vessels. All those jobs in Winnipeg that farmers paid the wages for but the government controlled. CWB: insulting initial payments, 18 months before final payments, ineffective alternatives to pooling that don't mirror current market conditions, bloated bureaucracy. Who knows how many Internation trade deals were made with cheap wheat as a bribe/bonus. The list goes on.

                  ps: Parsley, can we take the Collaberative Law route in this divorce. I hate lawyer fees!!

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                    #10
                    farmaholic;
                    Your last post reminded me of something I heard once. It went something like this,"IF YOUR NOT A SOCIALIST WHEN YOUR TWENTY, YOU HAVE NO HEART. AND IF YOUR NOT A CONSERVATIVE BY FORTY, YOU HAVE NO HEAD."

                    It basically explains my political history too.

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                      #11
                      Coleville: Maybe it has more to do with our needs at different times in our lives:
                      0--20--socialist
                      21-40--morphing to capitalist
                      41-60--CAPITAList
                      61-80--morphing back to socialist
                      80-death--socialist

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                        #12
                        farmaholic,
                        I find your philosophical metamorphosis very
                        fascinating ; the way you now view the world life-
                        changing, as you move from relying on the
                        collective way of decision- making to self-reliant
                        decision making.

                        Is there any one particular influence that caused
                        you to believe in yourself; in becoming your own
                        decision-maker?

                        Forgive me for being curious, but it really is a life-
                        changing decision when you turn to self-reliance.

                        I am very impressed by your decision; but also
                        want to fully understand the process that led you
                        to fall off the fence. This is book material LOL
                        Wow! Pars

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                          #13
                          "I can make my own mistakes."

                          That's a eureka, isn't it! Why come to that
                          conclusion at that moment?

                          Just a bolt out of the blue? An article? The wife?
                          The banker? Or a kidlet? A dream? Just so
                          damn curious, Pars

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                            #14
                            Pars,please don't call me him,lol,seriously you scare me

                            If we could swap to federal to private,ax the crap,change some letter heads and go baby
                            go,you seriously need to forget about the past,its gone,the board is everyone who ever
                            existed as a western canadian farmer,our great,great forefathers, to the toddlers at the
                            feet of our tractors today,it doesn't need to die,it is not a few burricraticale bubble
                            heads.

                            The mechanism that PEOPLE LIKE CHARLIEP AND LARRY WEBER understand NEEDS TO BE
                            IN PLACE_I DEFY YOU BOTH TO DISAGREE

                            On the more serious note is "brokerage service"-this is free open market capitalism.

                            Farmer's can pool and sell grain,other farmers can sell their own grain.

                            AND CAN YOU GUYS FINALLY COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT A BUSHEL OF WHEAT HAS
                            THE SAME /ratio/PRICE AS A BARREL OF OIL ON THIS ****ING PLANET_THEY ARE
                            EXCHANGED IN US ****ING DOLLARS-can we please all except this as fact? to speed
                            things up and keep up with reality?

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                              #15
                              A Real Life Fairy Tale;

                              Being on the socialist side of the fence is like living with family in real life, you're taken care of(or thought you were in the case of the Board). As I got older I could hear what was going on on the other side, capitalist side, of the fence and wanted to see. In doing so, I climbed onto the fence so I could see for myself. While I was up there I had the chance to make afew choices on my own and found that I was capable of making my own decisions with acceptable results and likely better than when others made them for me. Then knowing I was able to decide for myself what I wanted to do, I no longer wanted to live on the socialist side of the fence under the control of others. Once on the capitalist side, I decided for myself when and what I wanted to do. I found the harder and smarter I worked the more it benefited me. In comparison to real life becoming capitalist minded is like growing up and leaving home..... and lived happily ever after.

                              LOL By: Farmaholic

                              ps: it's easier to fall off the wagon than to get back on!!

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