Hon. Senator Nicole Eaton on C18 CWB Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Bill

[Happytrails]

So farmholic, what would work for you? How about respecting my property rights? And if you don't want to give authority to a majority party in parliament then who?

[silverback]

Capitalists don't force their neighbors to act the way they want them to.

Capitalism believes in freedom of association.

[wd9]

This whole conversation is proof positive the government will never make the right decision regardless of what it is.

[farmaholic]

Happytrails: I have no problem with the proposed changes that grant everyone choice to market their grain as they see fit, just the excuse. Theoretically, what I am saying is if everyone(grain producers) wanted to maintain the status quo and voted anything but Conservative and they still won a majority, producers wishes aren't reflective of the election results. The ag vote isn't that influencial/strong and is blended with urban votes in electoral districts that could care less one way or another regarding the CWB. In the Conservatives defence, they did campaign on elimination of the monopoly, no one should be surpised how things are unfolding on their side of the issue. What is dissappointing is the lack of foresight and unwillingness of the BOD to move ahead on this and come up with a workable solution. I will ask again like I did in a previous thread: what is the position of the 5 appointed directors? Couldn't the 5 appointed and two resigned directors put forth a strong enough arguement to convince the other 8 that their stance is going to be counter productive to the future of the new entity. Get on with it.

[grassfarmer]

Farmaholic, well done! you got the point of my post which seemed beyond everyone elses grasp.

silverback, you need to invest in a dictionary. Here is a start:

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000

cap·i·tal·ist (kp-tl-st)
n.
1. A supporter of capitalism.
2. An investor of capital in business, especially one having a major financial interest in an important enterprise.
3. A person of great wealth.
adj.
Capitalistic.


Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged

capitalist [ˈkæpɪtəlɪst]
n
1. (Economics) a person who owns capital, esp capital invested in a business
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) Politics a supporter of capitalism
3. Informal, usually derogatory a rich person
adj
(Economics) of or relating to capital, capitalists, or capitalism
capitalistic adj

[LWeber]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000

cap·i·tal·ist (kp-tl-st)
n.
1. A supporter of capitalism.



OXFORD DICTIONARIES:


capitalism(cap¦it¦al|ism)

[mass noun]

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Categories »an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state:

an era of free-market capitalism
private ownership is a key feature of capitalism

[grassfarmer]

"an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state:"

Yep, that's how things are in Canada.

"private ownership is a key feature of capitalism"

Yep, my property and business are in private ownership.

What's your point?

[silverback]

Wow, that took a lot of work hey?

How does your so called "dictionary" define a know it all cattle feeder who chose to move all the way to alberta to enjoy our climate and cheaper land, but, being a member of the left wing national farmers union, believes it is ok for some farmers to force other farmers into a system they don't want?. That same cattle feeder believes that even though he is free to take his grass fed beef (grain fed sucks I guess) to anyone who will buy it, his wheat growing neighbors cannot be smart enough to market their wheat however they choose?

[parsley]

Silver did you get that Alberta wind today? Pars

[grassfarmer]

Wouldn't be able to tell Pars, hot air seems to surround silverback all the time - it's all he ever comes up with here anyway.

[HFL]

The Consevetives were given a mandate to end the CWB monoploy when they campained on a platform that inculded the promise of ending the monopoly and won almost every designated area seat in the 2006 election. They were prevented from carrying out that mandate by opposion MPs who were elected in other parts of Canada. The mandate was renewed by by voters in the designated area in the federal election of 2008 and once again the Government was prevented from acting on it because they only had a minority. For a third time western Canadians gave the Consevetives the mandate to end the CWB monopoly in the May 2nd, 2011 election. Now they have their majority so they can act on that mandate. And yes, a federal election trumps the CWB's phoney survey every time. In a federal election you have to be alive, you have to show up at a polling station and once you vote once its very difficult to vote again. In the CWB's phoney vote some people who should have been eligible to vote were left out, some got one ballot, some got more and some dead people got to vote.

[silverback]

We had wind like I haven't seen in ... ???? It was incredible and scary to say the least. We were lucky the bins are still full with August 1 wheat. Some of our unfortunate neighbors will be calling the insurance company tomorrow.

I told the grandkids today that this wind was the wind of change blowing the oppression of the cwb out of Alberta for good. Hope to hear final passage tomorrow?