canoe on Bill 18

[grassfarmer]

If the single desk supporters AREN'T truly in the majority how did you always get directors elected that supported the single desk?

[highwayman]

Obviously you believe the CWB director elections a legitimate process, which is a belly slapper. But it matters not because the real majority has spoken hasn't it. And I do believe FREEDOM has trumped CWB TYRANNY.

[grassfarmer]

"Obviously you believe the CWB director elections a legitimate process, which is a belly slapper. But it matters not because the real majority has spoken hasn't it."

So what is the "real majority"? the vocal minority of grain growers? or the federal Government majority? Either way it's a pretty slipery path to be on in a democratic country. I don't think either the vocal minority being able to over-ride the wishes of the majority or a Government unilaterally being able to extinguish organisations despite the wishes of the majority of the members are desirable or commendable things.
What's next? extinguishing an opposition party?, the Western Wheat Growers? if at some point in the future they find themselves on opposite sides of an argument. Dangerous, dangerous precedant being set here and it doesn't sound much like freedom to me.

[FarmRanger]

Were the director elections as stacked with non-
farming and retired landlords as the so-called
plebiscite?

[highwayman]

"Vocal minority overriding the majortiy"?? Thats rich. Even after 10 years of the CWBs own surveys consistently showing otherwise you still cant absorb. I can understand your disconnect from the realty of grain farming as being a grassgrower but none the less, if it is actually as you say, the CWB should have no trouble attracting the volume of grain to a voluntary pool from their majority of support,should it not? LOL!
These same old arguements of majority vs minority have really been done to death grassy and are really quite boring. Time to stop beating your dead horse and lets move on. The future in Ag looks quite bright from here.

[LWeber]

Math is clearly not your strong point Mr Webber.
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My teachers regularly were on my case for not applying myself in math, so I will give you that.

I thought you were deeper than a simple divide two numbers person; I was mistaken. I should have known better and for that, I apologize.

Pilfering a targeted segment of males within a population when Canada had the highest rural density of all the Allies and then raping wheat profits had dire soci-economic consequences.

I gave you credit for getting past A divided by B and getting to C and possibly D.

My first clue should have been when you lumped collective marketing and capitalism in the same webpage.

[grassfarmer]

Yeah, sounds like "straws" and "clutching" now Mr Webber so i'll leave you to work on your math.

[ASRG]

parsley: I should apologize to you. I am just a cranky old type that is getting ready to bail on farming (and enjoy my day in the sun!)!
I never was a big fan of the CWB. Both me an Wilagro should just take our piles of money and go sit on the beach!
I will admit though that I have done a lot of work on property rights over the years and the end of the CWB monopoly is one of the greatest victories for property rights.......I have ever seen!

[FarmRanger]

I ask a serious question.

Was that plebiscite voter list of non-farmers the same as the one that has been used to elect the directors currently serving on the CWB board?

[parsley]

ASRP
Am really pleased to hear property rights are at
the top of your priority list. Farms need to
establish firm land ownersip rights. In your
opinion, should property rights efforts be directed
first at provincial laws or first at federal laws?
Pars

[Tom4Wildrose]

FarmRanger,

You KNOW the answer to that question... the CWB surveys over the past 10 years proved this.

Minister Goodale was a genius at ruling from behind the "iron curtain" for 8 years after he lost power!

We will find out by Christmas if his rule is finally over and we can stop fighting the 2nd world war out here on the prairie!

[ASRG]

parsley:That is a good question.
In the big picture of course it would be great to enshrine property rights in the Charter. That would be really helpful.
My involvement has mostly been at the provincial level in Alberta. In the last few years we have seen a provincial government assault on our property rights that almost boggles the mind! .....why we might even slip further than Saskatchewan! LOL
ASRG is short for Alberta Surface Rights Group.

[parsley]

I'm so pleased there is a pot bubbling. Is there
sister association in Saskatchewan you have
been liasing with? I was in contact with Danielle
Smith fairly often when she was CEO of Property
Rights' Association. That's a decade or so ago.
Grassy, are you an active member of this Alta
association? Pars

[parsley]

I'll toss the property rights issue into a nest of
disarmed politicos if I get a chance on Monday
after the reading of the Speech from the Throne.

KEY WORDS: property rights stir cauldron
trouble witch opening of parliament

[grassfarmer]

Parsley, I'm a member of CAEPLA
http://www.landownerassociation.ca/