AGRIWEEK "If you ask me"B A C K G R O U N D E R / Morris W. Dorosh

[blackpowder]

No problem with article when I first read it. Just thought using forced internment of Japanese as comparison a little stretch.

[Tom4Wildrose]

Blackpowder,

If you were Andy, his family, or his nieghbours... you might not think the words were STRONG enough! Shackles and strip searched 50 times puts it right up there with cruel and unususal punishment!

[wilagro]

A lot of gibberish designed as a fop for the antis to drool over.

Oh the harm the CWB did...oh...oh...oh...my gawd you'd think that we were under the heel of a malicious dictator.

My father sold wheat for 25 cents a bushel in 1934 under the open market system and welcomed the CWB where he got a fair deal for his wheat and other grain that he produced.

[sumdumguy]

A city left winger asked me today at the hospital,
what i think about the government tearing the
board away from farmers. I told her that i would
like to read her the article that says it as
eloquently as I would like to. Then she said,
Goodale is flabbergasted. I dont know how she
knows, Goodale cant be a flabbergasted as the
farmers he threw in jail.

[burnt]

Tom, Gerry Ritz is just doing his job - long hours or short - and when his job is done he will continue to be paid a big 5 or 6 figure pension, unlike many others who go long shifts between punching time clock for trifling pay.

You are wrong in thinking that I am blaming Ritz for the BSE fiasco. His fault lies in stone-walling those who are asking that the federal government sit sown and talk about what happened.

The reason? Cost. He knows that acknowledging that BSE was preventable is going to cost the Government of Canada a lot of money. A LOT of money.

Dismantling the CWB comes with no cost attached, thus making it a much easier decision for the government. The difference is that had the government fulfilled its duties, AS DID THOSE OF OTHER COUNTRIES, the BSE mess would never have happened. Thus, it is liable and Ritz knows it.

As far as your comment about the cattle industry being a bad choice, well that may have been about the stupidest thing you have ever said on this board! If you had any friends who are in the cattle business, you might want to issue a retraction of that statement...

By the same logic, you had no right to complain about growing wheat (or not) just because you thought that the CWB wasn't maximizing profits! You should just have stepped away from growing wheat and shut your mouth - leaving it to those who are more efficient and don't mind selling through the CWB whatever the price!. No one was holding a gun to your head either, ordering you to grow wheat!

And as for your comparison between the hog and cattle markets - another fail! I'm not in hogs so I cannot comment on the cause of their difficulties, but I know that it was not a result of bad regulatory decisions by the federal government, more specifically the CFIA.

I have no dog in the fight over the death of the CWB - it appears that you consider yourself among the winners, so I'm glad for you. But in view of this, perhaps you should just acknowledge that your high praise of Ritz is nothing other than good, old-fashioned butt kissing.

I'm not really into that kind of stuff.

Canada bless God!

[Tom4Wildrose]

Wilagro,

Perhaps you should be reminded that the CWB didn't start confiscating grain until 1943... and that it was STALIN stealing the grain that his OWN DOMESTIC farmers that SHOULD have been eating their grain for supper... instead Stalin stole those farmers grain... year after year... and dumped it on world markets in the 1930's... This is caused the massive price slide and starvation of tens of millions of farmers in eastern europe. A Soviet government monopoly... Confiscating Wheat & Barley (CWB).

[Tom4Wildrose]

I said: "In the end it was a business choice livestock producers made to be a part of these production systems."

I stand by this as I could have easily grown cattle or hogs on our farm.

I know how hard politics is on a person and a family.

I appreciate the genuine good will and hard work Minister Ritz has done... especially for western Canada.

I stand by this... it is my opinion, not 'butt kissing'.

Whatever your notion of serving others... please be generous and positive about those who give up nearly everything private to serve the vast majority of people... who are unthankful and unkind. You prove my point all too well... unfortunately.

[burnt]

As you prove mine! Did Ritz not choose politics? Did anyone hold a gun to his head to get into his role? Tom, you're being disingenuous!

You're making Ritz out to be a hero for getting into a rewarding job with its expected issues. Then you cast aspersions on cattle farmers for being in their chosen business when it collapsed due to grievously negligent gov't policy!

Would you also blame a **** victim for being a **** victim? "Well you chose to be where you were at the time, didn't you, too bad for you", Tom would tell them.

At the moment, Ritz might be your hero for what he has done for you but don't be surprised if not everyone clambers to get in on your little parade.

[Tom4Wildrose]

Burnt,

The gov. had special programs; in our family there are those who grow both cattle and hogs. We help each other when possible.

I chose to grow flax; which CDC Saskatoon contaminated with the triffid gm event (which got out to nearly everyone's farms in western Canada). Minister Gerry Ritz did not personally compensate our farm for this horrible expensive disaster... yet I am thankful for the work he does do in a positive way.

We live in the best country in the world; With the most opportunity to prosper and build strong communities.

I am sad your bitterness has not been resolved. Unforgivness is a horrible curse we choose for ourselves that shortens our lives. I hope you will have a better 2012 and can enjoy Christmas with those you love.

That **** thing was totally uncalled for.

[burnt]

Who said there is unforgiveness? Is asking for justice to be considered the same as bitterness? Do you consider it wrong to hold government to the same standard as they impose upon us as citizens? How will bureaucracy learn accountability if given a tabula rasa?

Be realistic, Tom!

Thank you for your kind wishes and I hope the same for you and yours!

John.