Stu Wells

[malleefarmer]

Does parsley have to use a sledgehammer to get
people to understand her valid point
And for what it's worth calling pro single dealers
"evil" is a bit melodramatic.
Find a solution by using the grey matter,our
single desk debate got heated and final vote was
still in Cavour of single desk but we reached a
compromise and finally 4 yrs down the track fully
open market,wasn't all or nothing we would have
had no change if we went down that line

[riders2010]

You are right parsley! The other side has managed, manipulated, misinformed etc. all from a point of being on the wrong side of the issue, up against a majority government, with probably less supporters, and have accomplished total chaos, doubt, and fear for our side and the entire political process of governing if you really think about it. Not too bad of an accomplishment! Too bad they did not manipulate our grain sales to actually make us more money and do it in a way that was more convenient for us. Looking at what I see here I think if they wanted to they probably could have.

I didn't know much about Stu Wells either, prior to seeing him on the senate debate the other day and yes I agree Parsley, he may be on the wrong side of the issue, and full of crap, but he looked calm composed and very professional and credible in his position of crap slinging.

How many moons ago did I say get organized, and the best our side came up with is; lets all get a membership in the wheat growers? oh goodie, what an obvious joke. Maybe we should hire some of the unemployed directors we would be successful in a heartbeat!

[Braveheart]

Riders2010, did you watch Kevin Bender presen to the Senate Ag Comm? I don't know if video exists but I heard he was tremendous.

All this Stewie lovefest reminds me of a senior being sold a new car, the first one he sees in the showroom. It's really a piece of crap but it's clean and shiny and the first one he sees.

Shop around Riders. Don'tbuy crap.

[Braveheart]

Mallee, I have firsthand experience with these personalities. There are no compromises that would ever work. Ever. Period.

I never met one that wouldn't hesitate to tell the most outrageous lie to achieve their goals.

Are they evil? If they lie maybe they just bad. If they applaud farmers going to jail for donating a bag of wheat to a Montana 4-H Club, they are stinky evil.

It's different here Mallee. The left wing politbureau dips to depths you have to experience to believe.

[riders2010]

No I didn't get a chance to watch mr. bender, sounds like a good watch though. And no I am certainly not buying the crap wells is selling either. But given the facts that all his tools to use are as you say crap with no facts and nothing credible, look at what they have accomplished.

The first thing to do when trying to defeat your rival is know and respect what they are capeable of. Looks like that didn't happen or like many more people are saying each day this really isn't as big a deal for the gov as they are making it out to be, but in fact is a created and encouraged distraction away from the much more serious issues facing family farms so it will be intentionally drug out as far as the grass roots supporters of the cons will allow it.

My 2 cents worth, instead of letters of love to ritz and harper send them a message to get the crap out of their asses and get it done right or else.

[Braveheart]

I dress like Larry the Cable Guy and my letters aren't full of love. They usually say, "Git er done"!

[riders2010]

Must be shoppin at the same store! lol

[oneoff]

Sounds very much like the current stategy isn't 100% successful for the majority government nor those such as myself who are desirous of prompt and effective CWB monopoly changes.
The file has been bungled. Currently Sec 47 has been determined to have been violated; and has condemned Ritz (and by association everyone supporting his proposals) to be an "affront to law". I would think that until he has cleared his name; that everything that stems from his CWB changes proposals before Parliament and the Senate have been tainted with improper process and illegality....... and that changes passed by Parliament will also be found to be clearly illegal until either....
Section 47 is repealed or ammended; and then probably start the process allover; doing it properly next time. My guess is that the Aug/2012 is optimistic; and the political will is being eroded. Another option, that clearly takes substantial time is to let the appeal process go on, and on, well past the time frames the government contemplated.
Bulldozing and alleged steamrolling may very well not have yielded the results others and myself have sought. And that is why I suggest those equipment operators must be open minded enough to at least acknowledge the points that persons such as Pars makes.

[bucket]

Ritz should just say there will be no
more free export licences for eastern
Canada. See how that goes over. Start
cutting the support off at the knees.

Then hire some real lawyers.

[farmaholic]

Good luck Parsley, no sarcasm intented. With the name calling, lack of diplomacy, lack of respect for the opposite sides opinion and position, emotional rants, you may have trouble finding what your looking for.

If we wanted to grow wheat, barley and durum we were forced to use a system of marketing that grain, no one "stole" it we simply lost control of it.

There is rhetoric on both sides of the argument. The pendulum on the pro-choice side has swung too far. The public needs to hear the facts not rhetoric.

I recall posting in a previous thread long ago not to hold our breath on the 08/2012 date, that it would be met with challenges. Also that if it is going to happen to make sure it is done right and not rammed through, they(Cons) have 4 years to accomplish it, but this is what happens when you rush things. I have found that when I take the exteme emotion out of decision making and base it on reason and facts I tend to make better choices.

Marketing freedom will come yet, but relax and use common sense and diplomacy, respect others opinions and views. Is that asking too much from a bunch of grown adults?

[dwaynemb]

After listening to Left wingers that are off their rockers like Butch Harder and Andy Baker in Manitoba, I appreciate someone who can at least try to articulate their position properly.

Doesn't mean I agree with anything they are saying though :-)

If you are interested in Kevin Benders presentation, the text is posted here.

<a
href="http://www.farmchat.com/showthread.php/431-Text-of-Wheat-Growers-Presentation-to-Senate">Farm
Chat</a>

[dwaynemb]

Try again for the correct link code

http://www.farmchat.com/showthread.php/431-Text-of-Wheat-Growers-Presentation-to-Senate

[dwaynemb]

Not my morning. Try again.

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