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    #11
    Wilagro and stubble. So according to your
    thinking on 47.1, all a gov't has to do is attach a
    section to all legislation that you have to have a
    plebiscite to change any act In the future? What's
    your thoughts on this?

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      #12
      Separating the wheat from the chaff in CWB
      debate
       
       
      By Les MacPherson, The StarPhoenixDecember
      10, 2011
       
       
      Comparisons of the Harper government to a
      dictatorship would be funny if they didn't trivialize
      the horrors of dictatorships.

      The Conservatives are getting it this time for
      dismantling the Canadian Wheat Board monopoly
      in violation of a court ruling. Except there is no
      ruling. Rather, the Federal Court issued a
      declaration, which, apparently, is quite a different
      thing from a ruling.

      The presiding judge said the government is acting
      illegally but, also, that he is not going to do
      anything about it. He could have ordered a
      binding referendum by farmers on the Wheat
      Board's future, as the law strictly requires, but he
      very deliberately did not.

      That probably is because the illegality here is the
      product of a perverse technicality bestowed by a
      Liberal government, since voted out. Among the
      Liberals' regrettable legacies is a Wheat Board
      Act that says, in effect, that Parliament cannot
      change the Wheat Board Act. But the act is
      entirely a creation of Parliament. To give farmers,
      or any other interest group, supremacy over
      Parliament and its acts would not only be absurd,
      but undemocratic in the extreme.

      Had the court issued an order in this case, it
      would have invited more of the same. The
      governing Conservatives could then make it illegal
      for future governments to resurrect the long gun
      registry, say, without a vote by duck hunters. They
      could bring in legislation forbidding future
      governments from interfering with oilsands
      development without the approval of oil
      companies. They could close down the CBC and
      require a vote by private broadcasters to bring it
      back. We then would hear quite a different tune
      from those who now, in defence of the Wheat
      Board, embrace exactly this kind of nonsense.

      Likewise overlooked by defenders of the Wheat
      Board, as well as by the courts, is the larger
      public interest. This is not an issue of concern to
      only farmers. They might be the only ones directly
      affected by the Wheat Board monopoly, but they
      do not enforce it. Rather, it is the justice system
      that fines and imprisons those dissidents who
      illegally sell their wheat to the highest bidder.
      Since the justice system belongs to all of us, we
      all should have a say on how it is used.

      And so we do. In this case, we elected a majority
      government that openly campaigned against the
      Wheat Board monopoly. That's about as
      democratic as it gets. What is undemocratic is
      letting farmers or any other interest group tell an
      elected Parliament what to do. What is perverse is
      using freedom and democracy and now the courts
      as sticks to beat on farmers who only want to
      work the free market like everyone else in the
      country.

      So twisted are Harper's critics that they would
      have honest farmers thrown in jail for exercising
      rights they themselves take for granted, just to
      make a debating point.

      Lawrence Martin, a national columnist wellknown
      for his loathing of the Harper Conservatives,
      accuses them of using the tactics of a banana
      republic. His hyperbole is an insult to those who
      have known the brutality of a real banana
      republics. Harper was elected to give western
      farmers marketing freedom. Now he's going to do
      it. The folks in real banana republics are dying for
      a chance of such governance.

      Just as theatrically indignant was the Liberal MP
      who said of the Harper Conservatives, "They'll
      stop at nothing!" Never mind that we have seen
      quite clearly where they will stop. The
      Conservatives will stop at prosecuting farmers for
      violating a Soviet-style monopoly. If there is a
      better stopping place, I can't think of it.

      Most inflammatory of the Conservatives' critics is
      NDP MP Pat Martin. His complaints about
      Harper's "jackboots" invite comparisons with the
      Nazi Gestapo. This for limiting debate in
      Parliament on a budget that was just debated
      from coast to coast during a 35-day election
      campaign. Everything to be said about the budget
      has been said, repeatedly. To claim there has not
      been enough debate is like comparing closure in
      Parliament with Nazi death camps.

      What Martin and his comrades in opposition really
      don't like is to see is Stephen Harper keeping his
      promises. It's driving them crazy.

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        #13
        vvalk, That is an excellent description of events. We need more writers like Les MacPherson in the western media, and more people to actually read what he wrote. Thank you for the post.

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          #14
          If we let judges run the country, we are in big
          trouble. Governments are elected to make the
          rules, not some appointed politico. Democracy is
          at stake.

          Get going guys, hit the press, make a splash and
          make the cameras follow you instead of the
          loonie tunes. A convoy is needed now.

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            #15
            Ya lets let the rule of the jungle apply
            in future. Only big dogs are allowed to
            play and git there way. My way er the
            highway. Greed is good! Shoot shovel
            and shut up if'n yer not on side yer off
            side, get ready ta be buried. Chislers
            and marketeers rule. I/we kin run the
            world from our home PC and tech gadgets,
            insteada wankin while driving our
            tracktor! Hey guys/gals, here is some
            advice fer yeah, wait for it, wait for
            it, DON'T EAT THE YELLOW SNOW!!!!!

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              #16
              Burbert,

              Talk about the rule of law being put in perverse disrepute... the CWB 8 Directors stealing our farms money while breaking the law in total disrespect and disregard to our interests and needs.

              You are a hypocrite... if you don't see how Chairman Oberg is going directly against my farms interests by sabotageing and depreciating the CWB's good will value... against our interests and disrespecting our needs.

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                #17
                Now I understand why Burbert is so against changes to the wheat board. He currently enjoys wankin while driving his tractor and feels the change may impact his ability to continue to enjoy himself while farming.

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