Freewheat

[dave4441]

Agree Freewheat. CWB may have worked for older guys but still does not mean it made sense to use them. Just cause you are old does not mean you leave opportunity on the table.

DAve

[Hopperbin]

Basically the collection agency asks why don't you pay it out? My story is if I would have paid it out at the time my 4.8 per bushel contract would have paid me 2 dollars per bushel. So I held the grain, logical predictable conclusion to the this. The open market would have either accepted the tons at the delivery time or taken them at a later date. The CWB claims the open market would have charged me. Remember I have the grain. The open market would not do that. They would want my grain.

[hedgehog]

i see exactly where you are coming from.
i grow wheat, barley, canola,flax.used to be organic, also have sheep.
I know when i (the bank) needs money and i know what is in my store, and time the sales accordingly.
If i didnt know when i could sell or what i was getting paid, i would have failed long ago.
Our prices have jumped since friday, lets hope it keeps going.

[agchat]

Freewheat: I must say that alot you have said in your response i agree with 100 percent. Very nice reply post. I will admit I look forward to the new times ahead, I just hope they are prosperous times like so many of us hope. Even though Tom was way off on what I was thinking as small farmer, that is Tom. You know Tom, I really admire the time and dedication you have put into this battle of the CWB. It would of totally exhausted me, and yes your long hard battle may very well prosper me, and I thank you. However, when I see the way you had to mock me with the fancy spelling towards me on your reply, alot of that admiration fades quickly. Will you Tom, will you really be happy with open market? You sometimes remind me of a saying " When you free a trapped bear, don't expect a hug."

[farmaholic]

Toms Quote:

CWRS/Wheat at 650mmt plus used each year... is a massive market. The 15 percent the old CWB had was a drop(one kernel) in the massive wheat markets globally.



CWB Quote:

In any given year, the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) markets over 20 million tonnes of grain to more than 70 countries. Total sales revenue for western Canadian wheat and barley reached $5.8 billion for the 1996-97 crop year.

20mmt out of 650mmt equals a wee bit over 3% even more dismal than 15%. Canadian Marketing Powerhouse.

[pgluca]

Freewheat, you said that age was a factor in support for the CWB, you may be partly true but.... did you look at the age of the guys that got chucked in jail, I know at least one was in his 70's. The CWB hasn't really wielded much market power since the 1960's when it held back Canadian wheat to try and influence prices. At that time we accumulated a huge back log on the farm and the government initiated the "LIFT" program (lower inventories for tomorrow), which discouraged farmers from growing wheat. After that the CWB was more or less a forced seller and every buyer in the world knew it.

[freewheat]

pgluca, I agree onthe age thing. Thing is the CWB's OWN SURVEYS showed the age relationship to grain marketing. I also know only one farmer around that I have dealt with, who openly loves the cwb. He is about 60-65 I think.

[TOM4CWB]

AgChat,

I truly didn't mean to offend you.

It is really curious how letters on a page can affect folks:

I thought it particularily revealing how you wrote:

"I myself think especially CWRS is a total different ball game as to canola,flax, peas, even durum and barley."

My experience as a wheat grower... and study of the milling markets; is that CWRS/CPS/CWRW many times are interchangable. Marketing into the northern US reinforces this. CIGI and study of processors and what they choose to use in grists... solidify my experience.

I hope you can forgive me appearing to 'mock' your experiences... I found it tuuly 'ironic' because you really did catch my attention of your perception of the wheat milling markets and my experience working in them over the past 30 years.

[wilagro]

Sell your wheat on the open market for six or seven years and you'll soon know why the old-timers favored the CWB.

Number one reason...they got screwed over too many times. Perhaps things are different now but the memories linger on.

[Wheatking]

Freewheat you(well agriville did) made the
news(newstalk 650) at 9:00pm tonight and
probably every newscast till tomorrow.
Flaman was blaming agriville for the
burning of his shed. Said it was one in a
million chance that it wasn't arson .