Parley/Tom/anybody

[FarmForProfit]

please cut and paste Vaders infamous
post so innocent bystanders can see what
kind of wingnut he is before blindly
believing he was burnt out by vengeful
producers.

Thanks
Ronski

[TOM4CWB]

Rod Flaman went from:

Rod Flaman’s presentation at Jim Chatenay's meeting in Alberta just after being elected:

Rod’s presentation was brief and to the point. Rod came to observe Jim’s meeting and learn more about how the CWB works. Rod explained in the question period, of Jim’s meeting, that he had been observing and being reserved during the last couple of CWB meetings, and was learning how the authority structure and information communication systems work at the CWB. Rod mentioned that many issues, that concern both he and Jim, were not making it to the CWB Board Room Table.

Rod assured us that he and Jim in future CWB meetings would put together packages of information and resolutions that would deal with these CWB problem areas. He mentioned that CWB Export License and Buy-back policies would be one of the areas they concentrate on.

Then Rod became smarter than the rest of us:

Vader posted Oct 25, 2002 9:49 in the “How do you define Commodity Marketing?” TOPIC:

Normally we market about 20,000,000 tonnes of wheat out of Canada. This year it might be closer to 7,000,000. Mother Nature has effected "supply management" on Canada and has also limited the size of the crop in Australia and the US. Isn't it amazing how the market has responded. In the month after the CWB announced that it had withdrawn from the market wheat prices went up almost a dollar a bushel.

Perhaps if we "planned to have" something less than 20,000,000 tonnes of wheat each year we might be able to "sell at a high price" more often.

How do we do that? We don't have a supply managed system. All we have is the PRO. The PRO doesn't always reflect a profitable sale for many producers and yet they continue to produce large quantities of wheat.

What if there was you could divide up CWB sales into different price ranges and each producer could exercise individual control over which CWB sales they participated in? Perhaps a sale to one country would make sense while a sale to another country would not. Rather than offer all of their grain to the CWB, some producers might decide not to participate in lower value sales once they have covered their cash flow requirements. This grain could be carried forward to sell to the high end markets the next year or offered to the domestic feed/ethanol industry.”

posted Oct 25, 2002 6:43 “What is the best way to meet the millers and bakers exact protein requirements? They purchase a range of products and blend to their exact specifications. Does Canada supply the higher end of Japan's protein requirements? You bet we do. Do you think that puts Japan in a situation where they might want to pay a premium to satisfy both their policy and quality demands? You bet.”

Vader posted Oct 24, 2002 17:09:

“…How do we best market our grain in a fiercely competitive world market to maximize returns to producers in these parts of the world.

If you simply dump your grain in the elevator pit whether that be in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan or Wolf Point, Montana are you marketing your grain? When you select a pricing option and hedge your sale, are you marketing grain? Where does the rubber hit the road? Who will travel to Bahrain to convince the customer that this product will meet his quality specifications. Who will convince him that this shipper will meet the delivery requirements of his mill? Who will broker the deal? Who is the marketer of that grain?”

Vader posted Oct 24, 2002 17:46 “If only the needs of the world would drive the system. That is simply not the case. Only those who can pay will get fed. It is not a hungry world for lack of supply.”


Now we see Rod... in his glory...

Farmers making Millions and Millions of Dollars...

Vader Posted: Jan 26, 2008 10:20

"talked to a farmer yesterday whose durum went 70 bushels per acre. On 2000 acres the gross revenue is $1,750,000.00.

I have heard similar stories around Kindersley and Swift Current of durum that went 50 bushels per acre. Now that is only $650,000 for a thousand acres but in that case the lentils and canola took him well into the millions as well.

I hear all the time here on angryville the time people like Saskfarmer bitching about the CWB because he can't get $17.00 for his durum and he blames this on the CWB.

In the case of a few rich farmers who can sit on all of their grain while the raging masses sell out early perhaps Saskfarmer has a legitimate argument. Perhaps we did cost him $5.00 per bushel on his durum. Perhaps it ran 50 bushels per acre and perhaps he had a thousand acres. And perhaps he could have earned an additional quarter of a million dollars.

I could argue that this is a zero sum game and that on the flip side there is another farmer that could have had the same 50 bushel crop on the same acreage base of 1000 acres and he could have sold his durum for $7.00 per bushel and for that farmer we made him an extra quarter million dollars. I could argue that for the health of the community it is better that the second farmer is able to pay down his debt and remain a constructive player in the industry and the community while poor Saskfarmer was prevented from expanding his farm by another section. The section that farmer number two may have sold after making his decision to sell his durum at 7.00.

But it is not a zero sum game. In fact we know that the CWB is asking $22.00 per bushel for durum today when the US elevator price reported here on Agri-vill is only $17.00. Now those elevators will sell your durum for $22.00 if they can get their hands on it.

So we see that for starters the CWB is keeping about $5.00 per bushel out of the handling companies pockets and putting it in farmers pockets right now.

Further we know that the average weighted selling price of durum in the US according to the North Dakota Wheat commission is about $10.00. This is further proof of the value of the CWB. The CWB has added to the bottom line of Canadian farmers on a 3 million tonne program an extra $73.00 per tonne or $220,000.00.

So yes the downside is that we kept Saskfarmer from buying another section of land where he might next year make enough extra money to buy out another suffering neighbor who had to sell a section to Saskfarmer.

The upside is that the Ag industry in Canada made an extra almost quarter of a BILLION DOLLARS.

And that is just on Durum.

Wait till you see my analysis on Spring Wheat and Malt Barley."

[furrowtickler]

Who sings that song "True colors"??
What one would call split personality ... LOL.

[parsley]

FarmForProfit, I recall standing on an X
intersection in Auckland,NZ, fascinated by
fanatical Hari Krishnas jingling along the streets;
only to dejas vous that same fervor in NYC some
years later, the commitment to their common
good radiating from their faces

And I wondered at what point did each individual
surrender themselves to group fervor, each one
stoking the fire in a spent other.

Rod changed from individual to collective. It
doesn't matter the reason, does it. Collective
choice is what it is.

Each one of us can make the individual choice
to revisit his decision each day, or alternately,
leave him sitting on his collective doorstep.

Your choice. Pars

[sumdumguy]

Lets take the high road and forgive and forget.
He is a human being and its Xmas and
FREEDOM WON?

[TOM4CWB]

sundumbguy,

Rod went WAY over the line blaming those on Agriville for his problem.

A strong response was in order.

This was all about freedom and liberty... the both of which Rod took for granted when he took the money and easy way out at the CWB on the 'single desk'... history will show Rod was on the WRONG side of this fiasco.

I don't hold a grudge... but I sure don't have to like being sucker punched.