Just get on with it

[malleefarmer]

CWB supporters and non supporters.
CWB will market grain in a new marketing enviornment with new pooling options and cash prices options supporters support them!

Grain Companies,end users and grain merchants will have a raft of cash price options and some pools non cwb supporters support them.

Banks will come up with commodity swaps hopefully to help with hedging for both camps use them.

For gods sake turn this back into a marketing forum you both will survive and move foward in 2012,wilargo can sell to cwb and tom to cargills or who ever,its done and dusted or i am retiring from agriville

[oldjim]

Well said. This place is useless - just a forum for bitching.

[farmaholic]

You're absolutely right. I could pose a simple question asking how far along people are selling their different crops and would hardly get a response. Yet the "_ _ _" threads go on forever. Or, somehow the "_ _ _" issue gets dragged into alot of threads. Even Christmas, nothing is immune.

There needs to be some New Years resolutions made. The whole debate has worn thin. Thank God its over!!

Enjoy the Holidays Folks.

[cottonpicken]

You guys are right.

[wmoebis]

I also agree:

Bets on which side brings up issue first? Or better yet Who?

[hedgehog]

mallee, are you having a big harvest?avoiding the rain?
is the eyre peninsula good country?

[stonepicker]

The subject of marketing freedom runs deep, but
hopefully things move on soon.

[TOM4CWB]

Mallee, Exactly what the willy/burb
crew are hopeing... that Agriville will
shut down. I for one am very thankful
for this site. It has been a great forum
on marketing. Folks, most of the
sparring is good natured. I truly do try
to widen the topics to the greater
economy... and will try to link back to
risk management... on our farms. Please
be patient... Rome was not built in a
day! Cheers have a great Boxing Day!

[Burbert]

This site IS ALL ABOUT crushing the
Comedian Wheatie Bored, always has been.
The Albertie Barley Commission (a front
fer the Albertie gobermont) designed,
sponsered and is the backing behind
Angriville. Once the wheatie bored is
gone, soooos this site! There is nothing
else Gag on here, except chiseling,
whinning and snivelling! Its Y this site
exists!!!

[Hopperbin]

Actually the talk of protien payments and risk has just begun I thinks. Malt contracts and risks. Somehow Tom I think there should be a law that our contracts need to pay out the farmer in some of these cases, it is only fair. The CWB was no better. I will gladly give up act of God clauses for instance if the grain companies would actually pay out the farmer if the price goes down in non delivery. This must be the next goal. Mallee do your contracts only work one way in Australia also?

[malleefarmer]

In aust we have deliverable fixed or multi grade contracts with spread prices usually done at time of contract execution. Last year in 2010 we cleaned up locked in $330 apw and the spread down to feed was minus $40 at harvest last year everyone had feed due to rain and was worth about $230 port so we had a win.

If you cant deleiver some contracts have a set wash out figure, others you have to find grain to supply if you have contracted at good price its not a issue.
Many favour commoditity swaps with banks which are basically futures position with banks carry margin calls unil expiry then farmer either pays the bank or bank pays the farmer. Of course they take a small % to cover risk.These are non deliverable and can get in and out 3 times during swap life if you wish. Alot of guys use swaps and then just deliver to pools and add swap profit to pool payments.

burbert,tom,stubble,franny and wilargro, the whole lot of you should go on a farm tour somewere east and have a molson together at a strip club and bury the hatchet and settle your differences.

[buzz]

Good perspective Malle
Thanks

[Burbert]

Havin a brew always, always, always,
solves things it seems, unless someone
throws a couch through a window. It
often seems like the best/worst
decisions in grain framing are based on
lottsa drinkin, by all involved.
HOWEVER, some of us boys/girls are takin
things one day at a time. Mallee
couches through windows are reality for
some, soos beer and strong drink don't
always apply. Bean sober in a strip
join, allows one to see the health
hazards that drunks don't/won't notice,
like slimey poles and funny smelling
upholstery in the bar area..........duhh