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    #13
    Tom, I happen to have a few decades of
    experience as the spoke in the eheel and the
    steering wheel and I disagree with you. a good
    manager surrounds himself with education and
    experience. Some people are unhappy because
    inept managers surround themselves with
    lapdogs and the quality of work is reflected on
    the whole group. Use the strengths of your
    employees. It takes some effort on your part, but
    you will see results and high morale.

    Managing can be much simpler if you engage
    people in the know who arent continually making
    errors and too complacent to care.

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      #14
      A good managers see the positive in his
      employees and uses these strengths to his
      advantage. If you surround yourself with losers,
      thats all you will have left because good
      employees will drift away. If you are heavy
      handed and despotic, no one will respect you.

      Hate to say it, but you sound pretty tough to work
      for. Are you hard-nosed Tom. Sounds like you
      are pretty used to having your way. I dont mean
      to be disrepectful, but I had to say it.

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        #15
        A business will easily fail when its manager fails to listen to the opinions or ideas of the employees he has hired. A manager who has gone to the work of hiring good people with good skills and then doesn't allow them to feel like they contribute to the job, can easily force them into one of those 3 categories.

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          #16
          Silverback, you are bang on. It's kind of like
          marriage. If you cant see the value of listening
          and seeing the signs, your marriage will turn into
          miserable failure.

          I think a lot of failed marriages are caused by not
          looking for strengths. Sometimes people should
          fire themselves because they are poor managers.

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            #17
            I am still amused... did you read this?

            'We Deserve the team we get'

            "So, what are the takeaways?

            The biggest one is this: Whether you are a happy or unhappy worker, a good or bad manager, an enlightened or naïve leader, you deserve the team you get.
            Said differently, we all play a role in what our teams and companies become.
            We must choose to take control of the results or risk making ourselves victims of the situation.
            Either way, we must live with the results of our choices."

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              #18
              I find it amusing how easy it is that this author and his consulting team could sit up on their high horse and make blanket statements about figuring who might make it to the 3 slots and fire them on the spot. I would think if someone wants to hire a workforce consultant, they might want to instead find someone who has the ability to turn the 3 placeholders into someone with more motivation and drive, or to figure out what is making them feel less than valued in their position.

              (and no I don't mean a bunch of feel good kumbya stuff)

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                #19
                sumdumguy and Silverback...

                Now I think you guys are starting to get it!!!

                Those calling the shots... have the most responsibility to change... and rid themselves (get rid of or 'fire' that old habit) if they plan on innovation and increased productivity.

                We get EXACTLY the result we plan for... and deserve... it does not matter if it is: Human Resourses... Risk Management... Production decisions... or estate planning.

                The only people we are truly responsible for changing... is ourselves (which includes our plans and expectations)... that has not changed.

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                  #20
                  OK... now time to link these articles back into who we choose/hire/fire as our Marketing Partners!?

                  From this perspective... who do you plan to hire or fire in 2012???

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                    #21
                    The prerequisite for obtaining a job in south east
                    saskatchewan is if you have a heart beat.

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                      #22
                      Comedian framer help, needs a strong
                      back and a week mind. Also a
                      willingness to work for nothing, only
                      when needed on the fram. Suppling yer
                      own meals, and the ability to work
                      witout any breaks whatsoever. Do
                      nothing other than what you've been toad
                      to do. Willingness ta suck up ta the
                      framer, telling him/her how smart and
                      rich they is, an how ya wanna be just
                      like them. Workin fer less than minimum
                      wage, cash under the table'll is good
                      too... Bein young, not old is an
                      excellent assest. No retired framers
                      need ta apply! Ifn yer hopin ta work
                      fer a grain company and grade grain,
                      workin on a Comedian farm fer at least a
                      week is absolutely necessary, cousin
                      from then on you'll hate comedian
                      farmers and thats an asset gradin the
                      crap theys tryin ta sell........

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                        #23
                        Silverback et el;,

                        Proof this is the truth!

                        Name one person you can instantly be reminded of... that reminds you of this discription:

                        " These people feel persecuted by humans, processes, and inanimate objects with equal ease—they almost seem to enjoy it. They are often angry, usually annoyed, and almost always complaining. Just when you think everything is humming along perfectly, they find something, anything, to complain about. At Halloween parties, they’re Eeyore, the gloomy, pessimistic donkey from the Winnie the Pooh stories—regardless of the costume they choose.
                        Victims aren’t looking for opportunities; they are looking for problems."

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                          #24
                          I have been employed in a team environment for
                          my entire career. The teams range in size up to
                          100 plus. I have also managed a large national
                          program. When I selected my main core team,
                          I didn't pick the Patsies. I selected, strength,
                          integrity and accuracy. The patsies pushed the
                          paper. We then audited their work.

                          So when you talk about whiners, many of those
                          people are whining because they are right. Some
                          not.

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