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    You are closer to MF Global than you think.

    The MF Global Bankruptcy is a major story unfolding in the US and agri commodity markets. Stu Ellis does a good job of explaining why grain producers should be aware of the situation.

    Moe Agostino
    Farms.com


    You Are Closer To MF Global Than You Think.

    By Stu Ellis

    How close are you to the MF Global collapse and bankruptcy? Was your grain elevator one of hundreds that hedged through MF Global, and your elevator manager is now out of some of his or her margin money? Did you have an MF Global account and are you short hundreds, or thousands, or tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dollars? Or were you totally insulated from the MF Global collapse until you read further.

    MF Global was a commodity brokerage, trading house, and clearing house that handled millions of transactions per year from agricultural commodity accounts, and held billions of dollars worth of accounts at any given time. That was until it declared bankruptcy on October 31 and a series of actions by the CME Group, the bankruptcy trustee, and the court froze accounts until everything could be sorted out. While money is still being recovered, many hedgers with commodity brokerage accounts may be out some of their investment, but some of the unreturned funds may represent money loaned by agricultural lenders as margin to hold hedges in place.

    If lenders lose money in the bankruptcy process that will be significant for everyone, whether they hedged daily or not at all. It could be even more significant than not having a safety net in the Farm Bill, believes Kansas State University risk management specialist Art Barnaby. His contentions, if confirmed, could have a wide ranging impact on agriculture and its relationship with lenders in the process of hedging and managing risk through the use of commodity exchanges.

    The Farm Bill has been around since the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933, providing a financial safety net for farmers, and a food supply safety net for consumers. If the MF Global bankruptcy turns out to have more impact on agriculture than the Farm Bill, that would be unprecedented.

    Whether that is widespread drought, foreign intervention in the role of markets, or a depression that would prevent farmers from planting a crop, the safety net mechanism of the Farm Bill has been the most important factor in agriculture since it was created. But could the importance of the Farm Bill now be overshadowed by the colossal failure of MF Global? Could that action be enough to outweigh a withering drought, an economic collapse of China, or a virulent disease that killed millions of acres of crops or millions of head of livestock?

    While the US government could indemnify farmers and grain elevators from the MF Global impact with relative ease, it might have trouble neutralizing the aftershock, and that is the concern Barnaby. Barnaby is concerned, and so should farmers and elevator managers be concerned with the morning after, when everyone gathers their senses and not only asks what just happened, but begins to take ultra conservative actions to ensure it does not happen again. When conservative responses come into play, that usually involves the lending community, namely agricultural bankers and the Farm Credit System.

    The interaction of lenders and the risk management system cannot be separated. Every banker wants to know how their farmer-borrowers are going to manage risk, and if it involves hedging on the commodity exchanges, that requires the participation of a lender to post margin money that is needed to ensure the trade will occur. The same is true for elevator managers, who may depend on lenders for millions of dollars to hold hedges that are required by law when most grain transactions are negotiated.

    But the new post-MF Global environment could see many lenders backing away from loaning margin accounts, or in the alternative, charging premium interest rates for money loaned to farmers or elevators for their margin accounts. With individual account holders only getting 60% to 70% of their money back, lenders will not be happy if that is their money which was loaned for the purpose of managing risk.

    What sort of a risk management plan is that?

    If elevators have to pay higher interest rates to banks to borrow money for the legally-mandated hedging activity, they will have to recoup the money some way. The most likely way will be lower bids for grain. Subsequently, the basis will widen, cash prices go down, and your grain just got cheaper without the market even being open for business.

    While the collapse of MF Global will be a case study that will long be studied by students of the financial system, the aftershock could long be felt on Rural Route 4 where farmers will be paying a much higher cost to market grain, compared to any taxpayer cost for a food supply underwritten by the Farm Bill safety net.

    Summary:
    The collapse of MF Global could be felt as much by lenders as by farmers and elevators which had placed hedges, but have lost all or part of their margin account. If lenders lose money as part of the bankruptcy, their future reluctance to loan money for risk management margins will be a significant loss. If money is loaned, interest rates could be charged at premium levels. Elevator managers will likely have to pay higher rates, and that will be reflected in lower cash bids and wider basis levels.

    #2
    The MF Global collapse cost Canadian account holders nothing cash... as RBC Dominion took over all the Canadian accounts and are making good on them.

    Delays in trading occurred but an orderly transition has occurred.

    As always all transactions have risk involved... a logical assessment of these risks is good business... just as dealing with our grain marketers/handlers needs the same assessments!

    It appears 2/3rds of US MF Global assets held by account holders will be returned to these folks.

    The collapse of Greece, Portugal, or Spain would have similar effect on the investment community. MF Global bet the wrong way on the EU... and LOST.

    As the collapse of at least Greece is being spoken of as a forgone conclusion... which will bring down the EU structure as we know it...

    How many here have a plan and contingency reserve to offset this event?

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      #3
      What kind of plan are you inferring? Contingency
      fund?

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        #4
        Comedian grain growin has been
        NATIONALIZED, hence the gobermont is on
        the hook fer anyting that happens to
        framers. Wes tooooooo biggggg ta fail
        now! Gobermont at yer back is a good
        ting. Is RITZ in hiding or toooo timid to
        squeak up aboot what he done?

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          #5
          You are not doing farmers any favor, Tom, if you
          you try to minimize the risk Corzine took on EU
          sovereign debt/derivitives as a deal gone bad.

          He lied to the US Senate. He squirreled away
          money long before the public knew it was stolen

          Yes, stolen
          And the regulators watched. The Board of
          Directors watched.

          There is a lack of trust factor that ness to be
          addressed here. We owe It to ourselves to look
          the problem in the eye... Customer cash was
          transferred to other accounts. That is a no no no
          no. It has to be fixed. Also CEO CorIne was
          ming private trades alongside MF Global. Another
          no no no. It has to be fixed.

          Or It will happen again.

          Why the hell should I as an RBC user, pay for
          some dipshit's losses?

          Glossing over the seriousness of not only
          corporate irresponsibilty and fraud, and not
          demanding transparent changes to commodity
          trading, simply conjugates mistrust in the open
          market. Parsley.

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            #6
            How are RBC customers going to lose? They
            took over the Canadian accounts which I heard
            were a separate company. All Canadian
            accounts still had all their money.

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              #7
              1. Share-worth goes down as operating costs go
              ^. (I presume staff, not magic, will handle fiasco-
              accounts)
              2. User fees inevitably increase as operating
              costs increase.

              3. Don't discount RBC writing off upcoming
              unforseen MF Global gold, silver etc. losses.

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                #8
                Parsley,

                If you have RBC Dominion shares... sell them if you object to them gaining market share in increasing profits!

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                  #9
                  Tom, they were leveraged 100-1 because they cooked their books... you can't justify this anyway, anyhow or anywhere...holy fk.........

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                    #10
                    The feds gotta control the banks and
                    brokerages.much as we would like to think
                    everyone is honest, as soon as there is no
                    regulation, some petty thief gets what he wants.

                    Dont tell me people in MFG didn't see Corz risky
                    plans, they implemented them. Give a bad
                    manager too much power and see what you get.

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                      #11
                      I think Tom will only wake up when he himself has a
                      few hundred grand stolen.

                      Then he will scream "injustice" and "how could this
                      possibly happen".

                      I want to try to explain how big of a deal this is but i
                      would be wasting my time.

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                        #12
                        I hope the GREAT DEPRESSION comes back for
                        everyone, except me and my family!!!!!!

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                          #13
                          Last I checked... the sun came up this morning.

                          People will be people... time marches on... there is 'Nothing new under the sun'.

                          There are much bigger fish to fry and contingencies to cover.

                          Like Iran and the impending war over oil in the middle east. It looks like Obama isn't afraid to pull the trigger... the great peace maker... isn't he complicit in the MF Global fiasco as well?

                          I think filling our fuel tanks... for spring work... might not be a bad idea before Jan 1!

                          Cheers!

                          Ideas don't mean much... if we don't plan and implement them...

                          By the way... I had a MF Global US account in 2009... and stopped using it.

                          SO I may have missed something... but what different was I supposed to have done?

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                            #14
                            That MF CEO Corzine is a greedy piece of
                            chit.

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                              #15
                              Just because something doesn't affect you directly (this time) doesn't mean you should pick the opposite position to side with.

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