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    C18 - Judge Campbell was WRONG.

    Just who broke the law and showed disrespect for the laws of Canada?

    "Parliament acted legally when it passed Bill C-18


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    GERALD CHIPEUR
    TheGlobeandMail.com
    Opinion, 2012-01-04

    Last week, in an op-ed column on Bill C-18, the Marketing Freedom for Grain Farmers Act (the legislation that ends the Canadian Wheat Board’s monopoly of wheat and barley sales), Peter H. Russell, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Toronto, said the government of Canada took the position that “it could simply ignore legislation passed by a previous Parliament.” There are three problems with his opinion.

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    First, the government did not take that position. It held that Bill C-18 was introduced and passed in a manner completely consistent with parliamentary and constitutional law and practice.

    Second, the argument that the previous Section 47 of the Wheat Board Act is a “manner and form” requirement is simply not legitimate. The vote required in that section was dependent on the action of others. A “manner and form” requirement must be limited to the actions of the minister and of Parliament. The insertion in Section 47 of a future requirement dependent on the participation of third parties was not consistent with parliamentary and constitutional law and practice. If any law is illegal, it’s the previous Section 47. One Parliament can’t play politics and require a future Parliament to include non-MPs in the law-making process.

    Third, and most important, Mr. Justice Douglas Campbell of the Federal Court was wrong to say that Parliament violated the Wheat Board Act. If Judge Campbell had not prevented the Attorney-General from explaining, in his court, the Constitution of Canada and parliamentary law and procedure, he would likely have heard the following legal principles fully argued:

    Speakers’ rulings are not subject to challenge in court.

    The only time and place a challenge may be made to the manner and form of a bill is during first, second or third reading of a bill in Parliament. In such event, the challenge is made to the Speaker of the House or to the Speaker of the Senate. The Speaker’s ruling is not subject to challenge in a court of justice.

    This is not a surprising principle. We never see MPs sprinting out of Parliament to begin a lawsuit against the Speaker. It just does not happen because the Court of Parliament is co-equal with the courts of justice, including the Supreme Court of Canada, and each respects the jurisdiction of the other.

    Based on this principle, Judge Campbell should have found that the lawsuit before him did not disclose a cause of action. The rulings of the Speaker may not be challenged in Federal Court directly or (as in the case of the Wheat Board) indirectly.

    This principle has been applied many times by the courts to throw out cases where the plaintiff has argued that Parliament missed a step or precondition or otherwise made a mistake in the process of passing a bill. Once the Sovereign has signed the bill into law, all such questions become irrelevant.

    No legal challenge may be made to an act of Parliament.

    Judge Campbell should have read these words from the High Court of England in Cheney v. Conn [1968] 1 Weekly Law Reports 242: “It is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal.”

    The proper approach for a court is set forth in this extensively quoted statement from Lord Campbell in 1842: “All that a court of justice can look to is the parliamentary roll: they see that an Act has passed both Houses of Parliament, and that it has received the royal assent, and no court of justice can inquire into the manner in which it was introduced into Parliament, what was done previously to its being introduced, or what passed in Parliament during the various stages of its progress through both Houses of Parliament.” [Edinburgh & Dalkeith Railway Co v. Wauchope (1842)]

    Prof. Russell and Judge Campbell are both wrong to have said that Parliament acted illegally in passing Bill C-18:

    1. Only the Speaker of the House or Senate has jurisdiction to make such a ruling (and no such ruling was made).

    2. The Federal Court must never question the legality of the enactment of an act by Parliament (this does not in any way limit the right of a court to look into the constitutionality of an act).

    3. As a matter of substantive parliamentary procedure, a condition such as in the previous Section 47 of the Wheat Board Act requiring the participation of a third party in the process of introducing a bill has never in the history of Parliament been described as a “manner and form” condition.

    There can be no doubt that the legal challenges under way will fail. If there is any criticism to be made regarding Section 47, it is of the ill-fated attempt by a previous Parliament to insert third parties into the statute-making process. That attempt was wrong in parliamentary law and procedure.

    Gerald Chipeur is a partner at Miller Thomson LLP in Calgary and a former chair of the Canadian Bar Association’s Constitutional and International Law Section."

    #2
    Amen and Amen.

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      #3
      What a great piece. Why does the Canadian justice system have such a long and sordid history of botched rulings? I suspect it's the influence of the "entitled to govern" Liberals.

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        #4
        WELL it's an opinion and everbody has one!

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          #5
          The same one the supreme court will come up with Burb.

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            #6
            Burbert,

            Had Goodale made a constitutional amendment... through the proper constitutional process...then the CWB vote requirement could have been implemented.

            It is absurd to have third party votes of people that are NOT MP's... deciding legislation.

            Environmental laws... requiring a vote of environmentalist groups... to change the parliamentary law on environmental issues?

            Oil and Gas producers... requiring a vote of Oil and Gas producers... to change the parliamentary law on oil taxes?

            We know what happens when the majority of people... who live off government... vote themselves benefits...

            We see run away deficit spending... and BINGO... GREECE, Portugal, Italy, Spain... France.... they are now one by one having sold out to unsustainable spending that will destroy their own countries... falling apart!

            We truly do live in interesting times...

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              #7
              "No legal challenge may be made to an act of Parliament."

              I suppose that a challenge to impugned legislation pursuant to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is not a legal challenge? Interesting.

              “It is not for the court to say that a parliamentary enactment, the highest law in this country, is illegal.”

              See the point above. Parliament is obliged to respect the Charter or risk having the law in question struck down as illegal.

              As the Chief Justice of Canada recently wrote, for example:

              "The government, as a general rule, must act in the interest of all citizens. It is entitled to make distinctions between different groups in the imposition of burdens or provision of benefits, subject to s. 15 of the Charter, which forbids discrimination."

              "Mr. Justice Douglas Campbell of the Federal Court was wrong to say that Parliament violated the Wheat Board Act. If Judge Campbell had not prevented the Attorney-General from explaining, in his court, the Constitution of Canada and parliamentary law and procedure..."

              Tough to do considering that the Federal Court Rules require that in the event of any Constitutional question before the Federal Court notice MUST be provided to the Atorneys General of each and every province, as well as the Feds, in the event that any or all of them might wish to make submissions. The Feds failed to provide such notice to the provinces. Rules is rules.

              "Judge Campbell should have found that the lawsuit before him did not disclose a cause of action."

              That would have been particularly difficult given that there was no lawsuit before Justice Campbell and thus no cause of action to consider.

              What Justice Campbell WAS asked for was a declaration that the tabling of Bill C-18 (NOT the legislation itself) violated the Rule of Law. It is very important indeed to note that Justice Campbell was NOT asked to comment on the content of Bill C-18 in any way. He was merely asked whether, in his respectful view, tabling Bill C-18 in Parliament violated section 47.1 of the Canadian Wheat Board Act. On a plain reading of the CWB Act, it is clear that it did.

              So what does this all mean? Nothing, at least as far as I can tell at this point. Certainly no injunction, and no lawsuit. Mr. Chipeur appears to be right about one thing. At the end of the day, this dog won't hunt.

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                #8
                I note there are very few lawyers (or wannabes or pundits) that have a 100% success rate in proving their legal opinion to the courts. It seems to me that the obscure overlooked legal details often prove to be the determining factor in a judge's decision. Are we all ready to have this question take us well past August 1 of this year?

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                  #9
                  cpallet,

                  The question of the Constitutionality of C18 was never an issue for Campbell to consider. By agreement of both sides.

                  Read the 'Declaration'.



                  Therefore this is a very logical rational view for us to consider.

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                    #10
                    Cpallet,

                    The supposed 47.1 was to stop the Minister of the CWB from issuing an order in council ending the CWB 'single desk' by a means other than change of the CWB Act itself.

                    As the C24 was a scheeme... not a direct monopoly... Goodale needed this type of safeguard to stop a minority government from simply ending the CWB 'single desk' without a vote.

                    As well it set out a scheme for the CWB directors in C24 to end the CWB monopoly... IF a majority had been elected whom wanted marketing freedom.

                    Your read of the C24 legislation is simply one sided and misses the point of 47.1.

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                      #11
                      Tom,

                      "The Minister has attempted to argue that s. 47.1 does not meet the requirements of a "manner and form" provision. I dismiss this argument and find any debate on "manner and form" is not properly before the Court for determination. Section 47.1 is presumed to be constitutionally valid, and no argument challenging this presumption has been properly presented in the present Applications; to do so would require notice of a Constitutional Question which has not been given. Thus, as the judicial review Applications are framed, the sole question for determination is: did the Minister breach the process requirements of s. 47.1, and if so, what relief, if any, should be granted? The answer to this question requires a statutory interpretation analysis."

                      Agreement on the constitutionality issue? Where do you get that impression? Justice Campbell clearly forbade the argument because the Feds failed to comply with the notice requirement.

                      As for the breach of section 47.1 of the CWB Act, that is apparent on a reading of the actual words of the section and the application of their simple meaning.

                      As Elmer Driedger famously said:
                      "Today there is only one principle or approach, namely, the words of an Act are to be read in their entire context and in their grammatical and ordinary sense harmoniously with the scheme of the Act, the object of the Act, and the intention of Parliament."

                      The words of the Act are clear;

                      "47.1 The Minister shall not cause to be introduced in Parliament a bill that would exclude any kind, type, class or grade of wheat or barley, or wheat or barley produced in any area in Canada, from the provisions of Part IV, either in whole or in part, or generally, or for any period, or that would extend the application of Part III or Part IV or both Parts III and IV to any other grain, unless
                      (a) the Minister has consulted with the board about the exclusion or extension; and
                      (b) the producers of the grain have voted in favour of the exclusion or extension, the voting process having been determined by the Minister."

                      The words say that a bill that would remove wheat and barley from Part IV cannot be legally "introduced in Parliament" without consultation and a vote (manner and form to be determined by the Minister). Straightforward stuff, that.

                      As for your interpretation of the "scheme of the act", have you read the Hansard debates on the subject? They are generally considered to be helpful in that determination. Certainly moreso than anyone's (including mine) unsupported opinions.

                      At the end of the day the only opinion that counts is that of the Court.

                      Had the government chosen to repeal section 47.1 first before tabling Bill C-18 we would not be having this debate. Maybe this was a deliberate ploy to stimulate discussion? Seems to be working from that point of view. Probably the only upshot of this particular tempest in a teapot from a practical point of view.

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                        #12
                        Cpallet,

                        From any practical real argument... "Had the government chosen to repeal section 47.1 first before tabling Bill C-18 we would not be having this debate."

                        I totally disagree.

                        EXACTLY the same debate would be raging if 47.1 had been removed... specifically proving the Minister was intentionally REMOVING the section to get around having to comply with it.

                        As I said, the practical intent was ALWAYS to stop the Minister and CWB BOD from changing the practice of the 'single desk' without a vote... USING the C24 legislation as the body to allow marketing freedom.

                        STOP.

                        Politicians can add any slant on this after... what was argued in the Parliament upon debate of 1,2,and 3rd readings is irrelevant... as the courts have ruled many times in the past.

                        The Consitutional arguments are exceedingly deep and wide... The COURTS have clearly and often ruled this C24 was strictly an Act of Parliament... under the 'Trade and Commerce' consitutional title... with absolutely NO charter rights that applied. We spent MILLIONS trying to get Charter rights recognised... a total failure... UNTIL NOW!

                        Undoing all those Federal Court CHARTER C24 rulings (that farmers had no Charter Rights or property rights under C24) would be arrogant, deceptive, manipulation that would bring our justice system into disrepute.

                        Surely even you can understand this!

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                          #13
                          "Politicians can add any slant on this after... what was argued in the Parliament upon debate of 1,2,and 3rd readings is irrelevant... as the courts have ruled many times in the past."

                          Bullshit. Pure and simple.

                          See, for example, the SCC decisions in R. v. Morgentaler, Reference re Securities Act (Canada) ("Intrinsic evidence, such as purpose clauses and the general structure of the statute, may reveal the purpose of a law. Extrinsic evidence, such as Hansard or other accounts of the legislative process, may also assist in determining a law's purpose."), BC (Workers' Comp) v. BC (Human Rights Tribunal), Knight v. Imperail Tobacco ("Imperial submits that it is improper to rely on excerpts from Hansard on an application to strike a pleading, since evidence is not admissible on such an application. However, a distinction lies between evidence that is introduced to prove a point of fact and evidence of legislative intent that is provided to assist the court in discerning the proper interpretation of a statute. The former is not relevant on an application to strike; the latter may be. Applications to strike are intended to economize judicial resources in cases where on the facts pled, the law does not support the plaintiff's claim. Courts may consider all evidence relevant to statutory interpretation, in order to achieve this purpose."), etc., etc. etc. There are over 150 cases from the SCC alone on his point.

                          You're in my house now Tom. Don't try and tell me how the law works and I won't try and tell you how to grow and market wheat. We have both spent decades honing our craft. I make the presumption that you may have some idea of what you are talking about when you speak of farming (and everything that goes with it). Go to law school, get some real world experience in Court, and we may be able to have a rational discussion on the law.

                          As for farming, if you want to talk strawberries, I'm your man.

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                            #14
                            Cpallet,

                            You are a lawyer that believes what you say... no doubt. That is YOUR job.

                            Which judge we get determines how well our point is accepted.

                            Its a matter of theatrics, politics, faith and good will. Protagonist vs. Antagonist.

                            Lawyers are just like news reporters... they have a story to tell... no doubt about that! The better they tell the story... the more likely the court will rule in their favour.

                            New precedences are the flavour of the month... everyone wants their name on one. Tony Merchant is the prime example of my point! And why his 'trial by fire' system will yield some results... with the right people launching them... and the right judges.

                            I love your BS comment... kind of theatrical and makes my point for me!

                            Cheers!

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                              #15
                              Theft is theft. The Comedian gobermont
                              has stolen, my assets at the wheatie
                              bored. Now ifn yous don't care, well, you
                              don't care, butt I doos and wants it back.
                              Ritz is gonna pay fer his blunder, after
                              all the conservies seem ta be very very
                              stupid and can't govern even wit their
                              majoritY. Theys was elect to govern, not
                              dicktate ta us framers!!!

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