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    #49
    Wd, for two months, id like you to pail-feed two
    dair newborn sucking calves. Skim milk in both
    pails. Add I cup melted butter to one of the pails
    per feed . And one cup melted canola margarine
    to the other class per feed.

    Sixty days. Report in to us will you Pars

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      #50
      Parsley, Dont do the multiple sclerosis route I am intimatly familiar as my wife passed away from the disease and we know all about selenium deficencies,she did not have a deficency, the funny thing was she was half native and they are the least likely to have the disease. The percentage of people eating out has increased in North America as well. We preach to the choir here as we all know natural made from scratch home cooked meals are the best, yet I know it is almost impossible to integrate your products into restaraunts or processing chains. I may have the better product but I dont have the deep pockets to buy off the decisionmakers. Also government with there Haacap program is making my life a nightmare as I would have to hire someone for the paperwork alone. But that is a topic for another day.

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        #51
        If i start a thread and stretch,it stays stretched.

        If i post on a thread it compacts.

        If i stretch a link on a post and make sure i stretch it
        it works.

        But i still don't know much.

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          #52
          jr, I only relate some of the grad students
          information.

          You might find this quote from the EU magazine
          interesting:

          "the catering section is attracting increasing
          attention at the pan-American level and one
          emerging question is that of the certification of
          organic establishments. The European (EU)
          Council Regulation No. 834/2007 on organic
          production and labeling of organic products
          obliges the European Commission to report to
          the EU Council on thee scope of the regulation
          before the end of 2011, and to make cear
          reference to 'organic food prepared by mass
          caterers'. "

          A huge reach into commercial food preparation if
          it flies. Pars

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            #53
            Thats a big if, and the more regulations they want to enforce the more it drives away businesses, Let the customer decide and keep the regulators out of it small businesses cant afford it and you know if it flies who pays for it.

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              #54
              Good point. Regulated until you die puking
              inspection fees kills a lot of commerce. Organics
              have reached the unbearable point where the
              inspectors hunt union-benefits, while seeking to
              enlarge their scope of inspection; a direct result of
              the socialist organic growers who fervently
              courted a government-run system. With farmers
              paying. And folded organics into the CWB.
              However, organic and conventional farmers who
              now want to market their own products and form
              partnerships with like-minded marketers have
              every opportunity to create and supply markets
              that wait for us to come a-calling. Pars

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                #55
                Parsely, rather a calf that is fed organic skim milk with organic butter! There will be no difference

                First of all, it is obvious their is a difference between butter and margarine. To grow a newborn calf requires ingredients only in butter and would not surprise anyone to see a difference.

                But, a typical adult does not need butter, or milk products designed to grow a calf at tremendous rates of weight gain. And that is the problem, overweight, oversaturated, overfed population with almost no regard for what they eat.

                Organic food is about affluence and mostly deceptive marketing. But then so are almost everything we buy today.

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                  #56
                  After those calves get past the weaning stage; their rumen developes so that bacteria are digesting the diet which is normally "grasses/plant/grain" material. The interesting fact is that the ruminant is actually sustaining itself and growing on a diet of microrganisms and bacteria.


                  In summary; the food entering the cattle feeds the bacteria in the rumen; and the animal "eats" and digests the bacterial nutrients. The key being to keeping the bacteria healthy and flourishing.

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                    #57
                    Being able to afford whatever you choose to eat or drink...... having the luxury to be as fussy as you choose......being vocal about issues which seriously affect the livelihoods of others; but don't directly impact your own yourself in any direct way ......being **** sure about your opinion......making jugements and decision solely based upon your own situation, wants and needs.....


                    Are all warning signals that you are amongst the elite; and that hosts of underlying principles have been ignorned and trompled upon.

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                      #58
                      Pretty much describes most Canadians!

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                        #59
                        yes Exactly.

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                          #60
                          Completely off topic. Do you know that a one word reply such as "Exactly" creates an error and won't be accepted; but a two word answer will be posted. Well I tried to be concise anyways.

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