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    #46
    Gusty, I will quote from the Nov/2011 glossy EU
    magazine I hold in hand:

    "The consumption of organic food is increasing
    and people often pay significant premium prices
    for organic products"

    As farmers, will you target premium markets, or
    will you target volume export markets through
    Viterra runing grain through their terminal and
    then their ports, or will you target the local feed
    markets.

    You know what makes you money.. But what if
    interest rates rise and the price of grain goes
    down? Pars

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      #47
      And here is the rest of the quote:

      "Between 1995 and 2007, another remarkable
      trend occurred: while the average European
      Union household expenditure of food
      consumption (adjusted for inflation) was 15%, the
      spending on catering services increased by 25%"

      That's interesting. More people are eating
      prepared food, eating out, and institutionsare
      buying prepared food to serve in their chains, and
      Mr. Eater is becoming increasingly fussy. Fussy
      means it costs a little more.
      The premium target keep expanding. Pars

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        #48
        Charliep, no matter what I do I can't stretch out
        this pad; any suggestions anyone. Pars

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          #49
          Wd, for two months, id like you to pail-feed two
          dair newborn sucking calves. Skim milk in both
          pails. Add I cup melted butter to one of the pails
          per feed . And one cup melted canola margarine
          to the other class per feed.

          Sixty days. Report in to us will you Pars

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            #50
            Parsley, Dont do the multiple sclerosis route I am intimatly familiar as my wife passed away from the disease and we know all about selenium deficencies,she did not have a deficency, the funny thing was she was half native and they are the least likely to have the disease. The percentage of people eating out has increased in North America as well. We preach to the choir here as we all know natural made from scratch home cooked meals are the best, yet I know it is almost impossible to integrate your products into restaraunts or processing chains. I may have the better product but I dont have the deep pockets to buy off the decisionmakers. Also government with there Haacap program is making my life a nightmare as I would have to hire someone for the paperwork alone. But that is a topic for another day.

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              #51
              If i start a thread and stretch,it stays stretched.

              If i post on a thread it compacts.

              If i stretch a link on a post and make sure i stretch it
              it works.

              But i still don't know much.

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                #52
                jr, I only relate some of the grad students
                information.

                You might find this quote from the EU magazine
                interesting:

                "the catering section is attracting increasing
                attention at the pan-American level and one
                emerging question is that of the certification of
                organic establishments. The European (EU)
                Council Regulation No. 834/2007 on organic
                production and labeling of organic products
                obliges the European Commission to report to
                the EU Council on thee scope of the regulation
                before the end of 2011, and to make cear
                reference to 'organic food prepared by mass
                caterers'. "

                A huge reach into commercial food preparation if
                it flies. Pars

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                  #53
                  Thats a big if, and the more regulations they want to enforce the more it drives away businesses, Let the customer decide and keep the regulators out of it small businesses cant afford it and you know if it flies who pays for it.

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                    #54
                    Good point. Regulated until you die puking
                    inspection fees kills a lot of commerce. Organics
                    have reached the unbearable point where the
                    inspectors hunt union-benefits, while seeking to
                    enlarge their scope of inspection; a direct result of
                    the socialist organic growers who fervently
                    courted a government-run system. With farmers
                    paying. And folded organics into the CWB.
                    However, organic and conventional farmers who
                    now want to market their own products and form
                    partnerships with like-minded marketers have
                    every opportunity to create and supply markets
                    that wait for us to come a-calling. Pars

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                      #55
                      Parsely, rather a calf that is fed organic skim milk with organic butter! There will be no difference

                      First of all, it is obvious their is a difference between butter and margarine. To grow a newborn calf requires ingredients only in butter and would not surprise anyone to see a difference.

                      But, a typical adult does not need butter, or milk products designed to grow a calf at tremendous rates of weight gain. And that is the problem, overweight, oversaturated, overfed population with almost no regard for what they eat.

                      Organic food is about affluence and mostly deceptive marketing. But then so are almost everything we buy today.

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                        #56
                        After those calves get past the weaning stage; their rumen developes so that bacteria are digesting the diet which is normally "grasses/plant/grain" material. The interesting fact is that the ruminant is actually sustaining itself and growing on a diet of microrganisms and bacteria.


                        In summary; the food entering the cattle feeds the bacteria in the rumen; and the animal "eats" and digests the bacterial nutrients. The key being to keeping the bacteria healthy and flourishing.

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                          #57
                          Being able to afford whatever you choose to eat or drink...... having the luxury to be as fussy as you choose......being vocal about issues which seriously affect the livelihoods of others; but don't directly impact your own yourself in any direct way ......being **** sure about your opinion......making jugements and decision solely based upon your own situation, wants and needs.....


                          Are all warning signals that you are amongst the elite; and that hosts of underlying principles have been ignorned and trompled upon.

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                            #58
                            Pretty much describes most Canadians!

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                              #59
                              yes Exactly.

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                                #60
                                Completely off topic. Do you know that a one word reply such as "Exactly" creates an error and won't be accepted; but a two word answer will be posted. Well I tried to be concise anyways.

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