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    Feedlot Barley Bids Slip

    Lethbridge-area barley bids are now in
    gradual decline. Buyers are now
    deferring barley sales and movement as
    grower marketings are picking up and
    more wheat is entering rations.

    Alberta feedlot bids have lost about
    $5/MT since mid-Dec and our take is
    another $5/MT drop into late winter.

    Malt prices are holding up. Buyers
    appear to be testing the water to see
    what it takes to contract malt barley
    for next fall. Solid Asian malt demand
    expected in 2012.

    Errol

    #2
    My local malster in the $5 area for fall with storage for later months. Claims to roughly follow (70%) Minn.
    Would like to lock some in before seeding! Would like to see another half dollar though. I may blink first.
    $75/t penalty for non- delivery on every bu. over 20 bpa contracted.

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      #3
      There should be solid buyer interest for new crop malt barley ahead. If you are looking for an additional 50 cents/bu, this is not out-of-line in my mind. But the feed barley market may be the one that wavers. Cashflow selling may pressure that feed prices lower at the feedlot level until roadban season.

      Errol

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        #4
        How much feed wheat are some of these feedlots going to in these rations? What are they bidding for decent feed wheat?

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          #5
          Wheat has been entering rations in central
          Alberta. 58lb red bids have been ranging
          between $197 to $201/MT delivered. The
          high price of barley is triggering some
          feed substitution.
          AgValue Brokers in Calgary are a good
          contact for a rundown of the feedlot
          market in central/southern Alberta

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            #6
            Nobody else wants to call bullshit on this whole
            thread?

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              #7
              Don't shoot the messenger . . . . Cheaper
              wheat has been replacing barley in feedlot
              rations for the last 6 weeks. Picture
              Butte feedlot delivered 48lb barley bids
              topped out at $218/MT about mid-December.
              This market is now down in a $209 -
              $211/MT range.

              Errol

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                #8
                High price of barley? With corn in the 7-
                8 range, $4.50 barley is low priced. Had
                a feed wheat quote at $5.70/bu recently in
                S AB. There seems to be a lot of feed
                around and there is going to be feed durum
                as well since the durum market has
                certainly not met expectations. Hoping
                for a spring weather market due to dryness
                for more sales.

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                  #9
                  No more $7 to $8/bu corn. CBT corn futures today $6/bu. US corn still higher than domestic feed grain prices. Alberta basis depending on rail car numbers likely in the 75 cent to a dollar over range. Imported corn $7/bu or $280/tonne track.

                  A market information service ARD uses suggested that $4/bu corn futures could be in the cards next fall. That would mean $5/bu landed Alberta prices or $200/tonne track Southern Alberta. I'm not that negative but continued cheap feed wheat in the world and 2012 corn acreage of 94 mln acres combined with 160 plus corn yields will put more pressure on feed grain prices.

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                    #10
                    Stealige, & Tookage by multies, result in
                    lower, & lower, and lower, Comedian grain
                    prices. Is anybody suprised buy this turn
                    of events, itn soo, you've bean in a cave
                    to long. Benchmarking and transparency
                    are a bitch! Aren't they?

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                      #11
                      Well Burbert, at least you have the
                      option of selling your wheat to the CWB,
                      and getting more value than the rest of
                      us.

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                        #12
                        Local agent not in the habit of giving bad information suggested delivered barley into Alberta was in the $5 to $5.25 range. If correct, I don't see a change.

                        There is a word other than "funny", for this, but feed growers scrambling to accept lower and lower bids into Alberta. Yeah, that would really get me hauling.

                        Is this the same rosy news for Manitoba?

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                          #13
                          The Western Cdn feedlot market is by far
                          the largest user of our feedgrains.
                          Domestic feedlot consumption is usually
                          10X higher than the board export
                          program. Board's export program was one
                          of selling to Saudi Arabia for that
                          country to distribute through the middle
                          east as camel feed. If it wasn't for our
                          local livestock market, our barley
                          market may look like rye of today.

                          As for the break in prices at the
                          feedlot level, lack of grower selling in
                          Nov/Dec was likely due to a delay to
                          sell into the new tax year. Now that it
                          is the new tax year, barley offers are
                          starting to pickup. But it has been an
                          overall warm winter in Alberta. Cattle
                          are gaining well and being pushed
                          forward. This has also reduced the
                          demand for feed.

                          But barley prices from a feeders' point
                          of view are very high. There is no
                          debating this. Alberta feedlots may not
                          want to feed wheat, but they are used to
                          feeding wheat. This has happened in
                          years past when wheat becomes cheaper to
                          feed. It is tricky to introduce into
                          rations, but it's done
                          Southern Alberta bids are likely to drop
                          further as feed buyer demand for barley
                          is weakening. Expect Lethbridge area
                          48lb bids to potentially test $205/MT
                          delivered by late Feb.

                          This is good news for feeders.
                          Hopefully, agriville is meant for both
                          grain growers and livestock feeders.

                          Sk and Mb bids may hold up due to grower
                          reluctance to price into a weaker
                          market. But you may see your delivery
                          times stretched out.

                          Also, cash corn prices have dropped
                          significantly stateside. Cash bids are
                          now around $5.50/bu.

                          This post is meant to alert growers of
                          the market dynamics effecting your feed
                          barley market right now.

                          PS ICE wheat, durum, barley contracts
                          begin to trade on Monday. Great news.

                          Errol

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                            #14
                            Errol.

                            Neat information. Hope the trend stated is off, otherwise laughing at $5.90 winter wheat picked up shouldn't be a repeatable move.

                            I also like your easy language that doesn't require a 40 word professional handbook to determine what the hay you just said.

                            Delivery in time to meet a tax year end has to have the stars line up. I've found with fob it's like pushing a rope. How do you control a trucker's schedule?

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                              #15
                              Thanks Errol;

                              Great to have your added info!

                              Looking into the crystal ball is always a fun experience... if there is a profit... I am too conservative to keep hanging on...

                              Cheers!

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