re: NFU previous post

[jackspratwhynot]

And leadership can be, and is often an apologist front for collaborators; lobbyists; faceless big business and cowards who wish to remain anonymous.

[TOM4CWB]

Jack,

Now that was a cup half empty!

Cheers!

[grassfarmer]

So Tom do you and the majority of your friends on
the commodity forum here still believe that Alberta
Bills 19,24, 36 and 50 are a product of positive and
optimistic leadership or by your in-action/lack of
interest do you consider them negative and therefor irrelevant to the vast majority of farmers?

[blackpowder]

Your intention is admirable. Your passion is enviable.
Some of your positions and alliances and actions cost you all of your credibility!
We need you. Yet your hell-bent on self-imposed exile.
If we made the labor unions and die-hard hippies happy, you wouldn't like the consequences either I'm afraid.
Trying to help here but, "each man has his own life".

[blackpowder]

I've stated before I do not support the power line grab or the people that wrote it. But it would appear your entire org. needs a rethink.
Honestly, defending property rights out one side of the mouth and risking them out the other. I'm not lunatic right. Shed your lunatic left.

[TOM4CWB]

grassy;

"I've stated before I do not support the power line grab or the people that wrote it. But it would appear your entire org. needs a rethink.
Honestly, defending property rights out one side of the mouth and risking them out the other. I'm not lunatic right. Shed your lunatic left."

Ditto.

And you already knew it.

Property Rights and Common Law have ALLWAYS been important...

Hence the need to remove the CWB 'Monopoly'.

Freedom to Choose... always means an increased opportunity... and the risk a poor decision means a fast learning experience... to correct the loss in future opportunities.

I haven't been able to figure you out Grassy... the double speak is confusing! PC AB Bills 19-36-50 need to be recinded. Central Planning of this scale makes B.C. NDP land planning bills past decades ago... look like childs play.

[Burbert]

wiltrosetommie, I hope that the Albertie
gobermont, decides ta, build an effluent
pond on your fram, then sequester CO2
underground, while pipelining bitumin in
circles around yur fram, while building a
transmission line round yr place. Then
digging a landfill fer a city dump. Now
thats an oppurtunity fer ya ta make some
reel coin...........

[TOM4CWB]

Burbert,

If we had all those services on our farm site... that could be the beginning of a great opportunity!

Thanks!

[blackpowder]

grassfarmer kisses a lot of strange people to attack his single issue.
It's quite an art juggling all those balls.

burbert: Offer me industrial land use $$/acre for your scheme and I'll sign.

[grassfarmer]

Despite the rhetoric Tom it seems clear you and
your CWB basher friends are too cosy with the PC
Government to do anything about the AB bills. It's
obvious by the fact that none of these contentious
issues ever get a response on the commodity forum.
Turn the other cheek and pretend it isn't happening
seems to be the order of the day.

[blackpowder]

I'm exposed weekly to anti-lines anti-PC messages. Strangely none from the NFU.
WE are on the same side, but Your voice can't be heard while standing in the herd you're in.

[grassfarmer]

Blackpowder I think you misunderstand. You started
this thread by saying we may as well quit as an
organization because we weren't getting invited to
the Government backed tables like other
commodity/industry organizations were. True
enough we don't get the invites, but to be honest I'd
be more worried if we were getting invited.

Our members keep informed of the issues through
the national organization but speak out for
themselves at local events. This works very
effectively as the NFU has plenty of articulate people
who are not afraid to speak out. I have seen this
happen at many, many events ranging from the BSE
era meetings in the beef industry to oilfield water
flood projects, power lines, to the CWB, the AB land
bills and most recently the AB Government "listening
sessions" Time and again when rural people feel
strongly enough about things to attend meetings
the NFU members in the audience are the ones that
speak loudest and clearest on the issues. Many
times Government officials or oil executives will go
home from meetings shaken by the show of force
against them at a public meeting when in fact there
were only a handful of NFU members in amongst a
roomful of farmers/ranchers who had just sat and
nodded their heads and clapped at the appropriate
times. In a sector where apathy and fear of speaking
up in public is the norm this enables the NFU to
punch far above its weight in terms of member
numbers. Thats why it is so successful. Lets face it
that's what infuriates the anti-cwb crowd the most,
if they really thought the NFU was pathetic and
irrelevant they wouldn't go to all this trouble to run
it down.