Are ratepayers meant to have no input into their rural municipal governance

[gregpet]

How do claim to be credible while remaining anonymous? Grow
some stones if you want credibility and put your name to it.

[jackspratwhynot]

cottonpicken posted Jan 17, 2012 12:58
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I actually know the answer to quite a few of those
questions,i thought the answers where common
knowlege,maybe i was told in confidence,i'll get
back to to you

[cottonpicken]

I remember the thread.

You then continuously insulted me,and then wonder
why i don't tell you what i know.

[jackspratwhynot]

gregpet posted Feb 11, 2012 9:33
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How do claim to be credible while remaining anonymous? Grow
some stones if you want credibility and put your name to it.

When I write letters to the editor I do just that. I also proof read, spell check and stick stronly to verifiable facts; and go through more than one revision..
When all facts are deliberately with held; one must resort to enquiring, visiting with neighbors; posting to agriville; and gossiping Everyone and myself is not as thorough or can be as careful. And no one is required or expected to expose themselves to the scrutiny and attack that would surely happen if their identity was known for sure.
There are many people who think they know who the writer ares. But they will never know for sure if a person was serious; lying or putting a topic out for discussion by being the devil's advocate; incorporating other person's ideas; nor whether they are 100% certain of someone's identity.
And that is why everyone posting should preserve their identity as much as possible.
As for not understanding a writer's points; that is pure B.S.
You wouldn't be responding if tender nerves aren't being touched.

[jackspratwhynot]

THEN JUST COME CLEAN WITH EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!



cottonpicken posted Jan 17, 2012 12:58
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I actually know the answer to quite a few of those
questions,i thought the answers where common
knowlege,maybe i was told in confidence,i'll get
back to to you

[jackspratwhynot]

Please tell everyone else "cotten"



cottonpicken posted Feb 11, 2012 10:03
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I remember the thread.

You then continuously insulted me,and then wonder
why i don't tell you what i know.

[dustyroad]

some one is going to be very embarassed when they find out what is going on with the land. I have nothing to do with council nor this land but wont tell because, to be frank its non of your or my business. I wont be a rumor mill.

[jackspratwhynot]

dustyroad posted Feb 11, 2012 10:56
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some one is going to be very embarassed when they find out what is going on with the land. I have nothing to do with council nor this land but wont tell because, to be frank its non of your or my business. I wont be a rumor mill.



I'm not asking you to repeat rumors; I'm asking for facts that should be available to the public. You say you have personal knowledge; and council has the same position; and it information that should be available for public scrutiny before this "deal" is fully completed.
It obviously is a somewhat or very important development(s) (with numerous public implications) and the public decisions are totally being made by within secret negotiations.

[dustyroad]

What exactly is it that has you so fired up about Northgate? Do you live there? Do you have land in the area? I don't understand. Or is it the pure fact that you don't know what is going on and it is driving you crazy? You say that you attend council meetings - why aren't you on council? Do you feel you are too good for them and your ideas too brilliant so you're just going to sit back and annoy them instead? Have you considered the fact that possibly they are forced into "secret" meetings because of you and your actions? I'm sure that the accusations you have tossed out on this forum time and time again aren't limited to this avenue. I've read some of your other posts here and you seem to have a common topic - your RM council is conspiring against you and the rest of the ratepayers. It would be one thing if you would have left your RM nameless, but you have actually named it. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to then figure out who you are claiming used "insider information" to make a profit. Do YOU have the FACTS to back those statements up with? You seem to want everyone else to lay out the facts they have - where's yours? Your's are pure and simple assumptions you have conjured up in your own mind. Have you considered the fact that possibly they don't know? That its possible this "entity" has chosen to remain nameless and anonymous until they have finished securing said land. And if you are so concerned about the future of Northgate where were you a year ago when the government decided to cease their postal services? The residents weren't given a choice there. They were told. Seems to me you are just jealous of the land sales happening. Infact you stated that neither you nor I were going to get "in on that action". I think it is driving you crazy to see this land selling for the prices you say it is. I say "good for them". Have you considered the possiblity that whatever money your RM has sold the lots for there will be used to benefit the RM somewhere else where funds wouldn't have otherwise been able to be alloted to? Maybe you need to step back off your high horse and think about the other possibilities instead of being so quick to lay blame and assume the worst in people. You say you want to see more people take action and be involved in RM issues and council, but how many people are going to be willing to step up and put themselves out there knowing there is a malicious and ignorant person judging and monitoring their every move. This personality is exactly the reason these types of decisions aren't put out for public knowledge. Putting such information out before all the facts are known is dangerous.I can see you being upset if such an unknown "facility" development was being erected beside your house - but is it? Then what right do you have? Is it a possibility the purchased lots are actually possibly going to be developed into more housing? Do you actually have a CLUE? Sounds to me like you're just speculating and starting rumors yourself. Why not be patient and see how the whole scenario plays out before getting your underwear in a knot? Regardless of if its oil or grain as others have speculated don't either of these commodities have the ability to boost your local economy? And shouldn't that be considered a positive?

[jackspratwhynot]

And that is exactly how a dictatorship is run.

[cottonpicken]

Answer the questions,just like you demanded
answers to yours.

[cottonpicken]

Answer the questions,just like you demanded
answers to yours.