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    #16
    We like to buy local. There are lots of producers everywhere, rural, close to cities, that will sell direct. If you choose pork, no matter where you live you can get local grown pork processed.

    Better yet, EAT BEEF!

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      #17
      Hopperbin: Thanks for those video leads and your analysis of the situation. The more our public knows of these abuses the better. When I raised pigs we tried to keep premises as clean as we possibly could and always had nice fresh straw for them to bed in. Good animal husbandry is just that...GOOD. I always tried to follow the rule of never abusing the animals that were in our charge.

      Many a night I stayed up with sows and assisted in the birth of their piglets and made sure they got under the heat lamps in cold weather. I hate factory-farm pork and see no reason for it to be the norm.

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        #18
        If anyone thinks thinks kind of treatment to animals in bigger operations is normal, you are nuts.

        Just because a pork operation becomes bigger you automatically assume they must be doing something wrong behind those doors. What's the difference with bigger grain farms? You must be gouging the land to get all you can from it.

        There are always exceptions to every rule, don't assume this is industry standard anywhere that producer hogs.

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          #19
          Just a side note,dont they ship fish out of lake
          winnipeg in barrels to china and then china
          processes and packages them and sells them
          back to us?

          Welcome to global economics.

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            #20
            Yes..."global economics"...where the producer gets screwed and the middle-man makes the most profit when the over-priced processed product is sold to the consumer.

            Like our power (electricity) in Alberta. We used to get it "wholesale" until the "tinkerers" decided that the classic "middle-man" (the retailer) was needed to reap the profit for "processing" it.

            Global economics is for the TRADERS...not the consumer.

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              #21
              Dont kill the messanger.

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                #22
                sorry Muff, big is bad is not my intention. Technically Finland should not be able to sell pork to Western Canada economically. we have cheap feed grain here and need to export our pork. finland has to import all their feed ingredients, which should cost more so how did that pork end up coming here is my question.

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                  #23
                  One cannot help but question the tactics of that video camera operator when the mother pig was stepping on the little piglet. Should he not have helped the little pig? What is his job there? According to him his job it is to shock the viewers. There is more to this than meets the eye.

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                    #24
                    Factory farm or 2 pigs and a chicken farm, I can guarantee you that is not what happens on a normal farm.
                    On the "factory" pig farm I am familiar with the pigs have a higher standard of living then probably 75% of the worlds human population.
                    A roof over their head, all the food they can eat and medical treatment if needed.
                    Not to mention ethics, it doesn't make financial sense either to neglect or abuse your livestock.

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                      #25
                      Hopper.......

                      You've hit the nail on the head. The likes of PETA and whoever else films these action is just as much guilty as anyone. They could have, and should have done something. I would not be surprised if they staged all this.

                      Most places have banned gestation stalls, and if you note some of the bruises, cuts, scraps, and the sows that were puffing hard...... You will see lots of that from sows fighting in group pens every time new ones are introduced into the group.

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                        #26
                        I think the last two who posted here got it right. I believe what was shown in the video is a rare case.

                        Yes, sows step and lay on piglets in both open pens and furrowing crates, get over it.

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                          #27
                          This is like watching, lumber being
                          hauled ta BC from Albertie and from BC
                          to Albertie fer framing. 2 x 4's goin
                          each direction, value added industry,
                          bullshit. A truly global industry,
                          that could be gettin the 2 x 4's from
                          over the fence at the mill next door,
                          instead hauls them from another province
                          cause its cheaper???????? Like Comedia
                          selling crude oil and not value adding
                          it at home, yup thats business fer ya,
                          phoney as plastic shit from Chine.....

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