Does anyone wonder Why they Voted for these Donkeys?

[GALAXIE500]

Good morning all. To Boarderblokes previous post about cheap grazing, I will give you a rundown of what it costs me. 30 pairs in the pfra for the pasture season cost me $4500 last year. That works out to $150 per cow /calf pair. It costs us dearly to have our 4 pasture employees run around in a $60,000 Ford dually and their $20,000 horse trailer. Not to mention their 2 new tractors to feed bulls over winter and the pasture managers wifes expensive taste to renovate the their house two years ago! If you guys think about it , we pay through the nose for our "cheap grazing" It costs me $1100 per year for my 8 1/4s of govt lease that I put the rest of my cows on . Do the ****ing Math!

[stubblejumper]

Galixy It is almost criminal that you can rent land from the government for $137.5/ quarter. This land should be tendered .

[rhoff]

Is that true? Can you really rent pasture for that
cheap? If that is true I would have to agree with
stubble jumper. If I was a landowner with that kind
of rental income it would be up for sale in a
heartbeat. Why is it expected the tax payers
should be denied the cost of capital to help out
ranchers.

[T.N.T.]

Whoa on the help all ranchers, we have cattle and we have no leased land from the goverment,so don't lump us all together in that group!!$137.50 a 1/4 is ridiculous!!!The goverment is making some money on there pfra pastures,if the goverment needs money then start selling off this goverment lease land,because they are running it at a big loss!!!

[stubblejumper]

In Alberta cowboys receive more for oil leases than is paid out for land leases to the government

[Horse]

Havnt been on line for a wqhile but I see things havnt changed much . Dont know about pfra but provincial grazing reserves here are 22.50 /AUM but provincial grazing leases are $1.39/AUMand you get the resource revenue also whitch amounted to over 40Million$ just in annual rent not including entry fees pipewlines sisemic and so to app 3500 lease holders ,who pay app 3.5mill rent /yr and county taxes Dam good business if you can get it. I take in app 100 pairs a yr at $30.00 per[ AUM animal unit month = 1cow 1 calf.

[GALAXIE500]

To add to my previous comment about lease land, etc. Down here where we live ( SW Sask ) the band of thieves we all voted for in the government sure do like that Gas and Oil revenue that they get every year from the land that we lease from them. Of course over in Alberta that revenue is shared with the lease holders, from what I have been told up to 50% goes to them. Here in good old Sask. we get a cheaper lease rental in lieu of . I have tried to buy some of my lease land but the good old govt. wants me to pay them around $130-150,000 per 1/4 for their land. Guess what? they have it figured that you have to pay out 25 years of surface rights to them. Sooooo.... I will keep paying my cheap lease fees and run cows on it until I am ready to retire, which won't be any time soon. Yes We have cheap grazing on crown land , but in Alberta those good ol boys have the best of both worlds. Thats why they drive a lot newer equipment than guys like me! Oh by the way , I am having a bit of wine with my cheese!!! LOL