NFU press release on CETA

[parsley]

Im probably more open-minded than most of you
on this site! LOL Pars.

[parsley]

One of the biggest problems farmers have is
supplying the grains the eaters want to buy.

Eater preferences can make you and break you.
Trends. Advertising. Health issues. Perception.

Think eggs. One will kill you advertising.

Think estrogen . One advertised patch did kill us.

Think farm grass-fed beef. $$

Well, the way I see it, grassy and my good looking
friend in Manitoba owe me a beer b/c they are
raking in grass-fed beef dollars.

Owe me. LOL

That's the new world slogan I picked up from the
Montreal sh**face riotous university youth who
adhere to their gospel of "Somebody owes me."
Works for them, Pars

[grefer]

Ahhh,but all is good.They take us out to a hockey game and buy us food and all the booze you can drink and tell us how great they are and all the things they do to help feed the world.To add to that it is the neighbours kid who works for them that escorts us to the event.They must have our best interests at heart.Really!!!

[wd9]

Its really fricking simple. You don't
want the technology don't buy it.
Develop your own seeds. Just don't think
you have this "magical right" in
legislation to steal technology.

The legislation already existed for
cereals to protect the holder of the IP.
Its up to the holder to enforce his
RIGHTS if the farmers PRIVILEGE is
abused. Midge tolerant wheat is a good
example. You're not forced to buy
anything if you don't want it. Trouble
is you want it, you just want to steal
it.

Nice dodging the questions grassfarmer.

[charliep]

Interesting how the discussion went from Canada European trade agreement to GMO to plant breeders rights. Interesting that Europe invest far more in plant breeding than we do in Canada, use biotech (not transgenics) and have some of the strongest protection of plant breeders rights including fair compensation.

[TOM4CWB]

Charlie,

And also interesting that the Aussies have the discipline to do the same, and make advances in plant breeding that should make us blush.

We can grow non-gmo canola like Nexera Hybreds... and open polinated canolas that cost much less than the hybreds.

We truly have unlimited seed sources... choose which system you want to support... and buy that seed.

Cheers!

[parsley]

wd9

I agree with you. Pay for the technology. Pay for a
patent. Development and invention has a cost.

And liability.

Both benefits and liabilities must be factored into
the equation.

So far, biotech's dog squats, dumps, and walks.

As it now sits, grassy is left holding a scoop he
has to pay for because he won't eat the dog.

The inventor , not grassy, should be buying the
scoop and cleaning up his own dog's crap.

Fair enough, wd? Pars

[parsley]

charliep, I want a nice prize. I didnt veer the
discussion this time. LOL

[wd9]

Absolutely parsely. Just as long as your "definition" of poop makes sense. Organic industry has had
their day in court too with this. IF laws are insufficient to have those rights protected, stop
wasting energy trying to get around existing laws to steal technology (as the original poster has
effectively said) and invest in laws that protect your market. Good luck with that of course because
laws shouldn't protecting marketing philosophy. Laws in Canada determine if the product is safe for
food feed and the environment.

Charlie, i copied the quote directly from the first post about this for reference. Don't believe it
is off topic but is within the topic posted. Here again for reference...

CETA includes draconian measures to enforce intellectual property rights, such as plant breeders’
rights and seed patents. If a seed company such as Bayer or Monsanto suspected a farmer of violating
a seed patent, it could get the courts to seize the farmer’s seed, land, equipment and bank
accounts... snip

Still waiting for an answer grassy. Parsely's replied was expected.

[Farmkid1]

Seriously!?! Farmers are some of the smartest people I know, and they are damn good at voting with their wallets. If you don't want the technology then don't buy it...simple. I would bet that the crop insurance average on canola going from 23 bu/acre in sask to 32 bu/acre in sask over the last 10 years has a lot to do with biotech crops....and the market share does not lie....most of the canola is GM because it is good technology. If it wasn't, farmers wouldn't buy it. Good luck seeding!