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    “…we have not had to put any taxpayers’ money into our financial system in Canada, nor do I
    anticipate that we’ll be obliged to do so.”

    —Jim Flaherty, Minister of Finance

    “Without wanting to appear arrogant or vain, which would be quite un-Canadian... while our
    system is not perfect, it has worked during this difficult time, I don’t want the government to be in
    the banking business in Canada.”

    —Jim Flaherty, Minister of Finance

    “It is true, we have the only banks in the western world that are not looking at bailouts or anything
    like that...and we haven’t got any TARP money.”

    —Stephen Harper, Prime Minister

    With such propaganda statements, bordering on patriotism, uttered by various Canadian
    politicians, it is no wonder that last summer Zero Hedge got into hot water with virtually every
    Canadian media outlet (see here and here) for daring to suggest that Canada's banks are not quite
    as stable and well capitalized as public rhetoric makes them seem. The narrative goes that
    Canadian banks were so rock-solid, they needed no public bailouts. Today, in an extended report
    by the Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives we get a slightly different perspective on what really
    happened in the 2008-2010 period.

    From the report:

    The official story of the 2008 financial crisis goes like this: American and international banks got
    caught placing bad bets on U.S. mortgages and had to be bailed out. But not in Canada. Through
    the financial crisis, Canadian banks were touted by the federal government and the banks
    themselves as being much more stable than other countries’ big banks. Canadian banks, we were
    assured, needed no such bailout.

    However, in contrast to the official story Canada’s banks received $114 billion in cash and loan
    support between September 2008 and August 2010. They were double-dipping in not only two
    but three separate support programs, one of them American. They continued receiving this
    support for a protracted period while at the same time reaping considerable profits and providing
    raises to their CEOs, who were already among Canada’s highest paid. In fact, several banks drew
    government support whose value exceeded the bank’s actual value. Canadian banks were in hot
    water during the crisis and the Canadian government has remained resolutely secretive about the
    details.

    It should be noted that the “Extraordinary Financing Framework” was prepared to spend up to
    $200 billion to aid the banks and other industries. In other words, while the sums reported in this
    report are enormous, there were even more funds to be disbursed if the banks needed them.
    In other words, just like US, European and ROW banks, Canadian banks were just as mortal, just as
    susceptible to bank runs, and just as fragile as everyone else in this globally interconnected
    financial regime. And the reality is that just as we disclosed last August when we pointed out to
    the abnormally low capitalization ratios of Canadian banks, which served as the initial domino for
    a firestorm of media criticism and vitriolic displaced patriotism, should the same Big 5 Canadian
    banks suffer impairments of more than just a few percent, their entire equity buffer would be
    impaired. No accounting gimmicks would mitigate this: no RWA assessment, no mark to myth - if
    the inbound cash flows on the left side of the balance sheet are impaired, the ability to fund
    outflows on the right side will be crippled as well.

    This was the basis of our caution. The response however confirmed that far more than simple
    math, when it comes to Canadian banks there is almost an irrational patriotic component
    involved, which forces many to ignore the simple math and to hope (probably the closest word to
    describe the sentiment) that nothing wrong can happen to the local financial sector.

    So in order to get some clarity, we have selected several excertps from the CCPA report, as well as
    some fact-based charts and diagrams for everyone's elucidation:

    It was the collapse of Lehman Brothers that started the massive support for Canadian banks from
    both American and Canadian governments, as shown in Figure 1. Massive loans from the liquidity
    programs of the U.S. Federal Reserve and the Bank of Canada provided the bulk of the initial
    support for the big Canadian banks.

    However, it was the third support from CMHC’s Insured Mortgage Purchase Program (IMPP) that
    did the heaviest lifting. In contrast to the loans of the first two programs, CMHC was providing
    direct cash infusions to Canada’s banks, although it took longer to ramp up. The program
    provided its first cash to the banks in October 2008.

    Within four months’ time, Canada’s big banks requested and received a whopping $50 billion in
    cash in exchange for mortgage-backed securities. By March 2009, government supports to
    Canada’s banks peaked at $114 billion. At this point, support for Canadian banks was equivalent
    to 7% of Canada’s 2009 GDP. That support represents a subsidy worth about $3,400 for every
    man, woman and child in Canada.

    By late-2009, the U.S. Federal Reserve began to wind down its support for Canadian banks. The
    Bank of Canada’s support for Canadian banks continued until the spring of 2010. Interestingly,
    the global financial crisis subsided by the end of 2009, but CMHC cash injections to Canada’s big
    banks didn’t wrap up until April 2010. The recession appeared to be behind us but Canada’s big
    banks were still taking cash from this federal program in the fall of 2010.

    By February 2010 and July 2010, all of the U.S. Federal Reserve and Bank of Canada loans had
    been respectively repaid. While these funds were repaid in full, it is clear that the banks benefitted
    enormously from public financing when private funds were unavailable. In addition, had the rapid
    and enormous deployment of public funds not been available, most, if not all, Canadian banks
    would have encountered serious difficulty.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/quantifying-big-five-canadian-banks-114-billion-bailout

    #2
    Harper and his gang would lie themselves right into heaven if need be.
    They have proven themselves to be liars so many times but their supporters cling to them like shit to a Hudson Bay blanket.
    Look for more of the same tactics in the years ahead.

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      #3
      Not that I'm a fan of Stephen Harper, but any of the leaders of the three main parties would have done exactly the same thing with the banks if they had been in power.

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        #4
        As always, TOO BIG TO FAIL! Bigger and richer is better...
        The rest of us do not matter in the great scheme of things, just good for cannon fodder when the rich start a war to distract us from corruption.

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          #5
          http://www.bloomberg.com/video/91689761/

          You can see our fall when a condescending dumb b#tch reporter
          who has spent more time on make up and hair than ever
          reading,figures she marginalize one of the smartest men who walks
          on two feet.

          God help us

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            #6
            “A healthy financial system cannot be based on massive government support for which the details remain secret,” the report said.

            “It is only through an honest and transparent examination of what occurred and how it can be avoided in the future that a stronger financial system can be built, which is in everyone’s best interest.”

            Ottawa has said repeatedly that Canada has one of the soundest banking sectors in the world and the country’s banks did not require a bailout during the 2008-09 financial crisis.

            CP, if your friend is so smart, why does he feel it necessary to operate in a cloud of secrecy and deception? Could it be, perhaps, that the truth would make him look bad? Very bad indeed? If not, why cover up and obfuscate on such a consistent ongoing basis? We can't handle the truth?

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              #7
              Ron Paul, is the Chuck Norris of smart.

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                #8
                Holy crap, just read some of the CCPAs stuff.
                The bank article aside perhaps, some of their other stuff is way out there for me. Might have some believers in that great economic and intellectual center of the universe Toronto. But not where I'm from.

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                  #9
                  Everyone can read what Blackpowder is taking about at <a href=”http://www.policyalternatives.ca/” target=”_blank”>Socialist Central</a>

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                    #10
                    Trying [URL="http://www.policyalternatives.ca/"]the link[/URL] again.

                    Friggy fraggin lack of edit function!

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                      #11
                      Also Flaherty fails to mention that the
                      oligopolistic Canadian banks screw their
                      customers with service charges like no
                      other banking system in the world. That
                      is why I am a shareholder. I let my bank
                      do my stealing for me.

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                        #12
                        Just found out that a small account that I kept
                        for paypal was emptied- yes I mean the money
                        was snagged by the bank because I hadn't used
                        the account for 2 years.

                        Isn't theft illegal?

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                          #13
                          Cottonpicken,

                          I am a 'cup is half full' guy, with our credit union system with 100 percent deposit Gar. we do have the best banking system. If you do not like the big 5, take your business to another financial insitution. FCC also made it through this problem with flying colours.

                          "Canada's banks buck global trend, declares WSJ

                          Wednesday, December 07, 2011





                          The Wall Street Journal writes on how and why Canadian Banks have earned their international reputation as "the world's soundest." Toronto-Dominion (TD) is among the Canadian banks whose solid reputation has led to significant growth in the past five years: TD is the number two Bank in Canada and the number 10 bank in the US with more branches south of the border than north.

                          "Toronto-Dominion Bank and Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce posted strong fourth-quarter profits Thursday on consumer and business loan growth, benefiting from the continued economic and employment growth in Canada that has kept the housing market strong and consumer confidence stable."


                          "The country's banks, which have minimal exposure to the debt-crippled peripheral European countries, have been ranked the world's soundest for four straight years by the World Economic Forum, enabling them to build through acquisitions abroad and aggressively compete for market share at home."

                          read full story here
                          original source Wall Street Journal"

                          http://www.yongestreetmedia.ca/inthenews/canadasbanksbuckglobaltrend1207.aspx

                          There is a good reason we can lock in 5 year rates at 3.5 percent interest. I call that spectacular.

                          No doubt there were 'bumps' going through the 2008-09 crisis... no 'net' taxpayer bailouts is a great testament to our CDN financial stability.

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                            #14
                            I am way more afraid of Credit Unions for
                            reasons I can not disclose and as for the 100%
                            guarantee, I want to see it in writing, just like
                            CDIC.

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                              #15
                              Tom, where can you get 3.5 for 5 years?

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